Generosity to whom?

Hi Riki,
As I was reading the BBC Southyorkshire web page a wonderful story
lept from my screen. RMBC in an extraordinary act of kindness as
loaned the Credit Union 80,000 pounds of ratepayers money to be
made available to families and people in crisis by way of food
parcels. Socialism in action I thought. What an excellent scheme.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-20783826

Then I read on…the vouchers are only redeemable at PAK
Supermarket at Wellgate. Why only PAK I wondered? My curiosity got
the better of me and so I searched Companies House for information
on PAK Supermarket which will be the recipient of tens of thousands
of Rotherham ratepayer’s pounds…a guarenteed windfall. To my
surprise I found that PAK had recently hit hard times:

http://companycheck.co.uk/company/07477308

Why then I wonder would RMBC present this ailing company with such
a windfall? A further search turned up some more interesting facts;

http://www.duedil.com/company/07477308/pak-supermarket-rotherham-
limited

‘Pak Supermarket (Rotherham) Limited was founded on 23 Dec 2010 and
has its registered office in South Yorkshire. The organisation’s
status is ‘Non-trading’, and they have 1 associated directors – all
of which are current. Mohammed Ayiaz is the Pak Supermarket
(Rotherham) Limited’s sole shareholder with a total of 1.00 shares.
The company has 1 subsidiary.’

Who are the directors? Who is Mr Ayiaz? Who decided to set up a
scheme with PAC Supermarket Rotherham being the only beneficiary in
terms of rate payers cash being exchanged for goods whereby a
private company would profit financially? Is this a council bailout
by the back door? There are currently more questions than answers.

Then I noticed Ms Champion was singing from the twitter tops about
the scheme (even exagerating the 80,000 claiming it was 100,0000).

http://mobile.twitter.com/SarahChampionMP?p=s

Something doesn’t seem right here! More probing to follow! Is there
anyone who can shed light on Mr Ayiaz or his family connections in
Rotherham or Birmingham? I am guessing he knows someone with links
to the council since his business was chosen specifically. The
reason why is unclear for now!

A curious citizen.

34 thoughts on “Generosity to whom?

  1. …apart from the wider question of why we NEED food parcels in 2012 – We have gone back to the Victorian era or beyond. Why is Sarah Champion crowing about this initiative instead of jumping up and down re the wider economic justice issue? Where is the Labour Party that Keir Hardie envisioned? What have they been playing at in the last 15 years?

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  2. Well your not very good at “probing” are you, when you accuse Sarah Champion of lying yet your incapable of doing sufficient research. £80,000 was giving my RMBC and £20,000 by the NHS Trust.

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  3. Mahroof Hussain says Tesco was asked to partake, but couldn’t make it for Christmas! What about Morrisons, Asda. The Coop, Sainsburys, Aldi. Lidl and Netto, where they also unable to assist in this scheme. Lots of questions need answering when £80,000 of public money is being used in such a scheme in which it appears the vouchers are to be used solely at one shop!

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    • malcontent – the remedy is at your fingertips via the well-tried and trusty Freedom of Information e-mail to RMBC.

      I don’t think you will find the faeces and manure for which I feel you are seeking here. I think you will find that the lead time for getting things organised by Tesco would have meant that Christmas was well-passed by the time that Head Office had completed forms in triplicate etc, if my informants in Town Hall Towers/Lubyanka are to be believed.

      I have also been told that for every £50 voucher exchanged at PAK Stores they will ensure that the bearer of the voucher receives £60 worth of food. A truly benevolent gesture on the part of our wonderful Pakistani Muslim brothers and sisters, and as you probably know Zakat (charity) is one of the Five Pillars of Islam.

      The Five Pillars being: 1-Shahada; 2-Salat; 3-Zakat; 4-Saum; 5-Hajj.

      Although I am very often highly critical of the RMBC Corn Fed Grunters, Muppets and Clowns, on this occasion I think that this plan, which I believe was the brainchild of Da Dodger himself, happens to be a piece of appropriate civic benevolence to the most needy at a time of Christian giving during Christmastime.

      I would only be upset if I thought that it was the Corn Fed Grunters, Muppets and Clowns who were junketing at civic expense. But I am well-assured that this is not the case.

      Merry Christmas and a Happy and Healthy New Year

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    • malcontent – the remedy is at your fingertips via the well-tried and trusty Freedom of Information e-mail to RMBC.

      I don’t think you will find the faeces and manure for which I feel you are seeking here. I think you will find that the lead time for getting things organised by Tesco would have meant that Christmas was well-passed by the time that Head Office had completed forms in triplicate etc, if my informants in Town Hall Towers/Lubyanka are to be believed.

      I have also been told that for every £50 voucher exchanged at PAK Stores they will ensure that the bearer of the voucher receives £60 worth of food. A truly benevolent gesture on the part of our wonderful Pakistani Muslim brothers and sisters, and as you probably know Zakat (charity) is one of the Five Pillars of Islam.

      The Five Pillars being: 1-Shahada; 2-Salat; 3-Zakat; 4-Saum; 5-Hajj.

      Although I am very often highly critical of the RMBC Corn Fed Grunters, Muppets and Clowns, on this occasion I think that this plan, which I believe was the brainchild of Da Dodger himself, happens to be a piece of appropriate civic benevolence to the most needy at a time of Christian giving during Christmastime.

      I would only be upset if I thought that it was the Corn Fed Grunters, Muppets and Clowns who were junketing at civic expense. But I am well-assured that this is not the case.

      Merry Christmas and a Happy and Healthy New Year

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  4. Could it be that PAK supermarket is an alcohol free zone so you couldn’t buy alcohol with the voucher.
    It’s probably one of the best independent supermarkets in Rotherham; give it a try, excellent
    range of spices etc.

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  5. I’m in two minds over this. On the one hand questions must be asked about how it’s been set up and why only one supermarket is involved. On the other hand a lot of families in Rotherham will be able to have a slightly brighter Christmas than they would have had otherwise thanks to this scheme, even if they wouldn’t normally shop at PAK supermarket.

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  6. PAK SUpermarket
    I have been lkooking into this or the past few days and am very concerned regarding this, and have raised my concerms with the appropriate authorities. Regard PAk Supermarkets and the Birmingham connection, There a number of Pak Supermarket. Most are inactive but this ine is interesting.
    PAK SUPERMARKET (WELLGATE) LIMITED Struck off 22.3.2011
    It is my understanding that person we need to look at is Mr Waheed Ghafoor, who was so kindly tripping around Rotherham Hospital with Cllr Duck and Dive some weeks ago. He is listed as a director of this former company. Also named Kadeer Ghafoor. Waseem lives or lived in Rotherham I have an address fpr him and one on Birmingham for Kadeer. As there is no liquor or tobacco licence for this supermarker, this has been given as a reason why the vouchers were made out for there.

    As a Tesco shareholder, I have emailed head office regarding their inability to deal with it as the duty manager I spoke to had no knowedge of the request.

    Ayiaz owned the original Pak Supermarket, They went under in 2009 following a development of a former bus depot. It was sold to Regal Foods of Bradord

    I don’t pay tax even in retirement for it to be squandered in this way either by RMBC or an NHS trust which is in serous financial difficulties, but considering who is running both I am not surprised,

    Poor bloody Rotherham. For God’s sake wake up and get rid of these people.

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  7. I suppose the question to ask is would Councillor Mahroof Hussain have any connections, interests in the shop in question directly or indirectly through family and/or connections. I’m sure since his parliamentary ambitions are so well known he will prove to be as clean as a whistle and would’ve declared any conflict of interest asap.
    His record on charitable deeds – Pakistan earthquake for instance – go before him.

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    • Sister Yvonne I am some what rather dismayed at your last two comment about Councillor Mahroof Hussain. As someone who, along with my immediate family as well as extended family, some of whom were the foot soldiers for your campaign, voted for you during the last by election, makes reading these comments all the more difficult to comprehend. To me these comments are intended to belittle Councillor Mahroofs work and the sarcasm is not subtle enough to go unnoticed. Councillor Mahroof has been an excellent representative for the people of Rotherham, a role model for many many young Muslims in Rotherham and has done so much for many people. I defy you to find a person who has a legitimate grievance or a bad word to say about him. People who have a personal vendetta against him don’t count. My family and I only voted for you because Councillor Mahroof was not selected, and I would wager that at least 60% of your votes were for the same reason. Thats not to say you in your in own right were not an excellent candidate.

      Sister Yvonne, Mahroof has a long record of helping those in need. Rather than attacking him you should work together and form a formidable partnership here in Rotherham that actively helps improve the lives of its people. I think its wrong of you to question his motives for his charitable work. No one questions why you are involved with the fantastic Viva Palestina conveys and the countless number of other noble causes you are involved in around the world. Therefore I think you should extend the same courtesy to Councillor Mahroof. I understand politics is extremely tribal, but I really think you should see beyond the fact that he is Labour politician and give credit where credit is due. Any way wish you the best of luck on what ever your future endeavours are. Please dont take this comment as a person attack but rather friendly advice lol. Also I have you say to who ever runs this blog, I dont know where you have learned that Councillors Mahroof supporters are knows as Moofy’s Mafia, but that is a lie and completely made up.

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  8. Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill!! Both cllr Husain and cllr akhtar have said on twitter that unfortunately there wasn’t enough time for the multinationals to get on board in time for Christmas. Can you not be happy for those vulnerable people at this festive time who will now be able to have food to eat just like us. Well done RMBC and if cllr Hussain did help get this supermarket on board the well done. Fanatic idea!!!

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  9. GH, thanks for the info, but you certainly have a lot more faith in RMBC’s replies under the FOI, than I have. Replies which can take 20 working days to get a response from, and when after waiting four weeks you do get a reply, it’s pithy to say the least! After making a FOI of RMBC as to when and to whom they had sold the old Alma Road School to. They replied that they had sold it to RCAT and after making a second FOI request to them, they replied they had sold the building in 2002 for £105,000 but they had lost the record of whom they had sold it to! This meant they knew they had received £105,000 for the property, but they did not know who from! By this time, I was losing the will to live and couldn’t be bothered to contact the Land Registry! You only mention Tesco as an alternative to PAK when I gave a long list of possible alternatives. In mentioning the five pillars of Islam, I believe you got the first one wrong. The first pillar of Islam is the DHSS office! If a company is to get a £100.000s worth of business then discounts can be given. If others had been asked to partake in the scheme who knows, what discounts may have been forthcoming. I still say there many questions that need answering on this matter! Oh, and a merry Christmas and a happy new year to you too.

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    • If they’s really cared why couldn’t they have sorted something out with the market traders? God knows they need some help and the ‘deserving poor’ could have eaten fresh meat and vegetables.

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    • @malcontent what a disgusting and vile comment to make: ” In mentioning the five pillars of Islam, I believe you got the first one wrong. The first pillar of Islam is the DHSS office!” This a grotesquely offence comment to me and my fellow Muslims. My late granddad, may god rest his sole, fought in the Second World War for this country, and after the war he settled here, taking up work in the steel mills of Rotherham and Sheffield. He gave his lifes blood to help this great country. Not a single person in my family claims benefits. In fact I run a very successful business and pay tens of thousands of puonds in tax. How dare you insult me and my co-reliogiist by suggesting that we are benefit scroungers and disrespect the Religion of Islam!!! I have been looking through this blog at your comments from past threads and you really do have a hated for the Muslims and Asians of Rotherham. Your rants are always aimed at Rotherham’s Muslim councillors as well as Lord Ahmed and the Muslim community. When challenged; rightly so, by AndyK on previous posts you claim you are not a racist. Well sir you are nothing but an intolerant bigot. If it makes you feel better to think you are not a racist then you keep thinking that but the reality could not be more different. Oh and dont bother saying Islam and Muslims aren’t a race because that is a cheap cop out and an undeserving veil to hide your hatred behind.

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      • So to publish any material about Asian politicians is racist? You Sir, are guilty of the worst kind of hypocrisy. I would suggest a little more objectivity when reading this blog, as you will find no bias of any kind of a racial nature, I can assure you from Rothpol.

        All those who conduct the ‘peoples business’ are held to account by Rotherham Politics, without fear or favour to anyone!

        What our relatives did in the past has absolutely no bearing on the present, whatever their personal sacrifice may have been and it is the lowest trick for you to argue that it does, or presumably you would not have mentioned it in your own intemperate rant.

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  10. Also haven’t the council loaned the money to Lazer Credit Union, who then pass it onto the people who require the funds? So surely the decision of where the vouchers can be redeemed lies with the credit union and not the council or councillors. Anyway Merry Christmas Rothpol and fellow readers. Have a smashing time day!!

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  11. dear very malcontent, your reference to the First Pillar of Islam is a racist insult indeed. Your true colours have finally been revealed and I am most surprised that RothPol has chosen to broadcast your insult.

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  12. @Rothpol I think you should take time to read my comment. Not once did i intend my comment to be directed to you or this blog. It was targeted at malcontent and his comments throughout this blog and who they are directed at. Hence why I put @malcontent at the beginning of my post. I never accused this blog of being racist. My whole comment was a response to malcontents comment that the first pillar of Islam is DHSS. Therefore I really do not understand your response??

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      • Are paranoid or something? I am NOT jahangir. Too be quite honest with you I don’t even like him. I am who I say I am so please dont accuse me of someone that I am not. I have no links to any councillor or politician. I am my own person. I really dont no why you having a pop at me? I have made it clear that I have no issue with this blog rather that I took offence to the comment by malcontent which as a Muslim I found offensive.

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  13. With the greatest of respect Rothpol I dont think Amin was attacking your or the blog for being racist but rather the comments of malcontent. Or that is how I read it. If its the latter I think I would agree with his position but if he is attacking the blog then he is completely wrongs. I think you should make you position clear Amin!!!

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  14. graldhunter & Amin176@hotmail.com : No matter what either of you say you cannot change the “fact” that Islam is a religion; not a race. I am truly suprised that by trying to make my remark racial the pair of you omitted to use that old favourite”Islamophobe!” Amin are you really saying that it is not our welfare state the draws muslims to a country whose culture their beliefs are incompatable with, and which many of them openly state they wish to overthrow! I was expecting some of you to join Mr tolerance AndyK in suggesting I should be gagged! Regarding the topic of this blog, many are talking as if this money is being “given” away, or food parcels are being distributed. This money is being given out as”loans.” They may be interst free, but they are still loans, which have to be repaid! The money in question is public money and the pulic are entitled to expect due diligence is exercised when a scheme of this kind introduced. AndyK you cannot shuffle off the responsibilty to a credit union. The responsibilty for how this money is used, which has been raised from the public, lies with the Councillors involved!

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    • @malcontent in my comment did I refer to what this post is about? NO!! The reason for that is that I agree with you as tax payers we deserve to know how our money is spent. I took offence to your comment which was not only offensive but a lie. I can assure that no Muslim come to this country for the benefit system. Whilst not denying that they come for economic betterment through the chance of getting employment, like my grandfather, it is a total lie to suggest they come for benefits. Even if they do come for benefits, Muslim migrants are not entitled to any state handouts until they are granted indefinite leave to remain because many of them are from outside of the EU.

      Oh please dont peddle Daily Mail and Express style propaganda about Islam not being compatible with western style democracies. Let me tell you there is nothing in the culture of this country that goes against my beliefs as a Muslim. You talk about those who want to over throw this country, they are a minority in a minority. Those extremist and nut cases do not represent Muslims or Islam. They manipulate things to further their own personal ambitions. If you are going to judge Islam dont judge it by the actions of its adherents judge it based on the core principles of the religion, the Quran and the teachings of Prophet Muhammad PBUH.

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    • Malcontent, I don’t expect you to be gagged but I think your comment ‘are you really saying that it is not our welfare state that draws muslims to a country whose culture their beliefs are incompatible with’ is disrespectful.
      My grandparents came from a country which at the time promoted Western democratic laws and tolerance (the extreme years came later with military dictatorships). In the 40 years they were here, they didn’t take ANY benefits and worked all their lives, same as my parents. So no, it isn’t the welfare state that draws Muslims here. Islam and democracy are not incompatible, people such as yourself and extremists on both sides, would like them to be incompatible, but they’re not.
      Regarding Pak Supermarket issue, I agree that it was inconsiderate especially for those who do not wish to purchase halal produce.

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  15. Well Done, yet again attention has been deflected from the real issues by specious arguments. Rothpol is right, it is about Politics in Rotherham with a capital P not party politics or religion but Rotheham -God help it!!!!!!!!!!

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