Now here I go again! A personal viewpoint.

I thought this was just too thought provoking to leave this unnoticed:

“Now here I go again – whilst I will fight RMBC tooth and nail to get to the truth re the malpractice and criminal deceit regarding the cover up concerning grooming and the systematic rape of young women in the borough, I also want to see a condemnation of the role of sections of the local Muslim community in actual rape and cover up too from Yvonne Ridley. (And not just elected officials please). Furthermore, I want a real condemnation, no denial that it was ‘one off’ or simply a local ‘cultural issue’ – it wasn’t – see Rochdale, Watford, Bradford ad infinitum its seems.

To really address the issues yes we have to look at the roles of the police, Thacker, Akhtar, Stone, Lakin and the rest of the criminal apologist and deceivers in the cover up. (Mostly non Muslim I may add). But to get to the root of the problem in a holistic manner we also have to look deeper and find what attitudes, misguided beliefs and gender based cultural and religious misconceptions made the groomers and rapist think it was acceptable behaviour. I’m sorry to say this – but the criminals involved in Rotherham where misguided Muslims so let’s start with radical Islam.

So many Muslims I know and lovingly accept as sisters and brothers of the human family are terrified of speaking out publicly on the issue for many reasons. Firstly they feel it will give fresh publicity to the events and allow racist like the EDL / BNP the ammunition to rant ‘The Muslims are to blame for all sexual exploitation’. (An evil and crazy idea). And secondly because they are afraid some (a minority) in their community will castigate them as traitors to Islam when obviously they aren’t; this I find the most alarming.

I will state now that the majority of groomers and rapists in Britain are known to be non Muslims. I will state now that the groomers and rapist in th Borough did not exploit the victims because of Islamic teachings from the Koran. However it can’t be denied that in Rotherham the rapist’s own interpretation of Islam and their view of the role of women (and non believers) did play a role; however warped that may be it needs to be examined and addressed openly. And not just behind closed Mosque doors..

Regarding YR’s role in the debate – on a personal basis I researched Yvonne’s history because I was initially inspired by her determination regarding the issue. However as I did I’ became increasingly alarmed regarding her attitudes (and often rants) regarding the roles of non Muslim and western women; attitudes I find disgusting. In particular I found I became angry that she seemed to be arguing that it is how women dress and behave that can be blamed for many of societies ills including their vulnerability to sexual exploitation. She’s so wrong and so Victorian Britain it’s dangerous.

Yvonne when it comes to grooming, sexual assault and the rape of vulnerable women and children (and sometimes males) the blame lies at only one door: the vile and repulsive criminal that perpetuates it. It isn’t what women wear, the fact they may like to dance in public, have a glass of wine with friends or share social open occasions with several individuals of varying genders that leads to rape; it’s the belief of some cultures, communities and men (a tiny minority) that women are worthless, second class citizens and should be controlled or monitored that does: that and the personal power aspect of the ‘inadequate’ of course.

Yes I am disgusted that Sarah Champion in her tweets seemed to viewing the debate re sexual exploitation and the criminal cover up as a game between herself and Yvonne. But I also have concerns about YR’s attitude to women and ‘non believers’. Personally I think they both see it all as a political football – shame on both.

What we know for sure is grooming and rape is about power and control. What we know for sure is that it happens in all communities and civilisations. What we know for sure is that we have a nationwide and Rotherham based problem concerning a minority of Muslim men and youths’ regarding the grooming and their attitude to women. What we know for sure is that however PC we may or can be at times we should get to the root of the issue, rid the borough of this evil and make sure the systematic grooming can never happen again. To do that we have to be honest no matter how painful it can be to all – and that includes communities. .

And so my little ramble is ending for nopw – but to sum up – the more I find out about YR’s attitudes to the role of women the more concerned I become. Oppresive attitudes breed a oppressive actions. A woman as the right to be who she wishes to be (as do men).

Regarding YR’s rants I will keep searching but for now here’s one more. (I found so many and they all were jaw droppers). In my opinion YR has no respect (pardon the pun) for female rights or the individual’s right to choose – in short no respect. And in my belief that is part of the problem.”

http://yvonneridley.org/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=15

SKT xxxx

See also: Doing the rounds – Champion on Yvonne Ridley!

11 thoughts on “Now here I go again! A personal viewpoint.

  1. Sally Kate Taylor who wrote this issue.
    First of all I would like to say a big thank you for writing this issue about grooming.
    But unfortunately we should not point fingers at anyone.
    This issue is a very sensitive issue, by you going on here and criticizing people is not makin the issue better what your doing is making the issue worser.
    I am respected person in the community, we should tackle this issue together not point fingers at each other.
    Sally Kate Taylor I am disgusted the article you have left is not helping people out in Rotherham.
    Frat off all who are you to go around blaming the people in masjid, police and the councillors in Rotherham.
    Are you helping the problem out in Rotherham or are you having a go at th people.
    I do want to say GROOMING IS NOT A BIG ISSUE.
    Big issue is people losing their jobs and work etc.
    What are you doing about that issue.
    Then your coming on here criticizing the police, councillors and Yvonne Ridley.
    You should apologize to the people with your comments as they seem
    Offensive as a respected man.

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    • We have to accept that their is problem with issues with grooming? Due to certain community leaders and the councillors we asian community cannot have a public meeting which i have tried to hold. I have tried to hold one at Unity centre and Azizaam Akhtar refuses people to hold a meeting because ASBO Jahngir akhtar wont allow this.
      We urgently need to have an open and honest meeting with the people of rotherham.
      Please dont invite the councillors, police or community leaders.
      They have done nothing over the past 10+ years .
      We the residents need to clear this mess once and for all.
      United we stand.

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    • What am I doing about the issue. Quite a lot. As many know I raised it some years ago. My reward – the sack . Still I’m honest – which is more than the rabble at RMBC can claim to be. I’m sorry I won’t stay silent. Too many do.

      As for appologize to the police, counsillors and those that covered up the scandal – no way. I’m seeing my solicitors about the next little phase in the cover up in the next two weeks. The none registrartion of children at risk by RMBC. It goes right to to the top.

      As for Yvonne Ridley – yes I will criticize her views regarding women. They are offensive to me and many women and belong in the middle ages. I wouldn’t worry about YR – I’m sure Yvonne has counter views – which she has aright to – but I don’t agree with them and will state it. . However as for not questioning her views (which she broadcast herself) – sorry I’m a modern girl – I have a view and will state it.

      Grooming may not be a big issue for you – . but is is for the victims. The young girls that were sexually expoilted and raped. Justice must be seen to be done – RMBC won’t ensure it is – so hey I and others will.

      It’s no good trying to hide the probelm. If we do the EDL will exploit. What usually (well always actually) causes most damage is the cover up. Why RMBC don’t realise that can’t fathom.

      As for pointing fingers – I will carry on regardless. I will say it again and again – Stone, Akhtar, Lakin, Thacker (and her little crew) and the police have a lot to answer for. We need answers and I will continue asking the questions. When they give an honest answer and stop hiding behind semantics, avoidance and procedure I wil stop. Until then – tell me Mr Stone etc etc what exactly did you know about the grooming? And why was it kept quiet?

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      • Well said Sally Kate. If there is any assistance I can give please contact me. I have access to free para legal advice through friends who are equally committed to justice. My email is wil.ewart@gmail.com. It may better however to work through Rik.

        Regarding Toilet Roll. Again the language suggests that it is Asbo or one of his chums.

        The response is sordid and shameful. Is the writer suggesting we can have jobs or justice?

        The low level of morality of his/her response is dreadful.

        Let us recap. 6oo children are accepted as having been sexual abused. Only one court case ever took place, and that only accounted for 14 children.

        By children I think we are talking about under 14 years (happy to be corrected on this). Many are only 10 and some as young as 8.Many were disturbed, poor and of low intellectual ability – the most vulnerable.

        The council has been seriously criticised for its failures.

        This is what TR is talking about when he/she says they are not a priority.

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  2. Firstly, I want to ask, why does Yvonne Ridley continue to live in this Country. Why doesn’t she go and live in an Islamic State somewhere where she can inflict her narrow views on the population using the name of Islam. Or is her aim to turn Britain into an intolerant Islamic State such as Iran and the like where they try to murder schoolgirls for wanting an education! She is so anti-state she would be in prison in any other country. Shame on her!
    Secondly, as for the comment of ‘toilet roll’ saying “Grooming is not a big issue”! Isn’t it? Perhaps not in your community but it is in mine and I want to see these people found, convicted and severely punished, preferably with long prison terms then deportation. Your email title is very apt though, perhaps we should all wipe our backsides on you, it seems that is all you’re fit for.

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    • Like any blog everyone goes of on one. Each and everyone of you out there in rotherham like i said lets hold a meeting and tackle this issue once and for all.
      We need town centre location where the public would be invited and discuss this issues. Any place apart from worship, pubs and club.
      After everything whats happened to our beautiful Rotherham, lets bring it out in the open once and for all.

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      • Sally Kate Taylor. Its sad news that when someone speaks the truth or they report what happens and they lose there jobs? No one has the right to sack you for your honesty.
        We need people like you to speak the truth and stand up for what you believe in.
        God will show these people one day, you mark my words.
        As a human we need to put what ever differences we have to one side and get rid of the people who were the ones who covered for these crimes being committed.
        I agree with Anon that we should hold public meeting and raise the awareness.

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  3. You have to question the morals of an individual who thinks that child abuse is not a problem, really unsettling to think there is someone out there with this mentality.

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  4. Thankyou Wll – I have noted your email i will keep you informed when I have had my neetings. After 25.08.13 I beleive..

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