Healey manipulates?

Reliable sources tell me that Sue Ellis and Alan Atkin who have both received letters from the Labour Party informing them they are to be investigated over the CSE issue were due to be suspended and removed from their positions ( Ellis as Area Assembly Chair and Atkin as Chair of the Planning Board) but Lo and behold John Healey has stepped in with his NEC hat and stopped them getting suspended.

Word has it that Ellis has some incriminating evidence that puts Healey in the frame by way of having extensive knowledge of the CSE due to his close relationship with Stone and Wright.

I am sure people will already know that Glyn Whelbourn has resigned from his position as the Chair of the Scrutiny management board after receiving a similar letter.

We can conclude a couple of things from this, first Healey is protecting his mates rather than protecting the children and secondly Lakin has proven to be as spineless as was predicted by many inside and outside of the Labour Party, surely if he sacked 3 Cabinet members because of the “letters from the Party” then he should have removed Ellis and Atkin from their respective positions until the conclusion of the enquiry from the Labour Party.

Ellis and Atkin have no honour, integrity or self respect.

Oh nearly forgot, Alan Atkin is john Healey’s election agent for the forthcoming general election.

The Phantom 0f the Town Hall.

64 thoughts on “Healey manipulates?

  1. What amazes me is how the hell is Jane Havenhand ducking all this, she was senior adviser to Wright for the whole of his period as cabinet member for Children and young peoples services plus part of Lakins tenure. Whelbourn in 2006 and 7 was an adviser to Wright he receives a letter from the Labour Party so why hasn’t Havenhand, or has she? Havenhand is chair of the Rother valley South Area assembly plus other positions on the council, surely if Wright and the rest had to go so should she.
    Dave Smith

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  2. Even more puzzling-to me-is how did Healey overide the decisions of the Labour party? Being a member of Labour’s NEC (which is the administative authority of the party) does not confer sole arbitrary rights on a member to make a decision which overules the party.
    Clause VIII. The National Executive Committee.
    http://labourlist.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Rule-Book-2013.pdf

    Another cover up?

    https://rotherhampolitics.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/rule-book-2014-collins-review.pdf is the latest version

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  3. I thought Healey was better than this? No wonder Rotherham folk have lost their faith in Labour!, Their collective behaviour disgusts me and I can’t see myself voting for Healey, or any Labour Candidate who has failed in their duty.

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    • “No wonder Rotherham folk have lost their faith in Labour!,”
      I think you should have said “Rotherham folk have lost their marbles”.
      I have just seen a story from UKIP quoting a recent poll done by Survation where Labour polled

      45% in 2010 (General Election)
      46% in 2012 (By election)
      48% in 2014 – Following the CSE revelations.

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  4. Dave – Also amazing is how Jo Burton is still in post. She was an advisor to Shaun Wright from 2004 then Vice Chair to Shaun Wright 2007-2008, member 2009 – Children’s Safeguarding Board. She who says “It (CSE) is happening in other towns and cities and if what happened in Rotherham helps other towns and cities to come to terms with it – Then it will have been worth it.”
    She who when asked at Anston Parish Council, what she knew about Child Sexual Exploitation sits there smirking.
    Previously she has denied any knowledge – But Then – dropped out that she used to visit the offices of Risky Business. No way she did not know – And what was she advising Shaun Wright – was it let’s keep our mouths tightly closed?

    Get Her Out She Is A Disgrace.

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  5. Ellis must have some big fish on Healey, word is that the NEC were not impressed with her record and allegations of bullying. But Healey pleaded with them to keep her but at the same time putting the rope around the necks of others who weren’t apart of this scandal!

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    • What I would like to know is, who has what on whom? especially on the high ranking SY Police Officers. Perhaps some of the truths will out now, but I doubt it.

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  6. The lesson here would seem to be, Labour in Rotherham are still in some form of denial and that is preventing them realising the significance of their own part in ‘looking the other way’, they are collectively to blame! No honour on Labour benches in Rotherham then, or amongst MPs it would appear!

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    • This should be about the victims! Not saving one or anothers political position on the ‘gravy train’. Labour in Rotherham are becoming unelectable, in parts of the borough.
      They are still arrogant, out of touch, greedy and dishonest! They must all go

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      • Very important point! Will the victims yet feel the Labour Party is now ‘on their side’?
        From this exposure, I would very much doubt it?
        I t would appear to me, that Labour has lost all ‘moral authority’ to govern Rotherham.
        A full round of elections to obtain fresh mandates from the people, is the only way forward acceptable to the people. Give us elections, we demand them!

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  7. So if Healey is in the frame , MacShane must be a candidate for clink again! …..After all, it was HIS seat for the duration of the offences…..so how can he now be brought to justice…which law applies here?

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    • All three,Healey,Barron and Mcshane are guilty of covering the packistani peodophiles up to keep their snouts well in the trough,lets hope the rope keeps tightening around their necks because they have well and truly let the honest people of Rotherham down,how do they sleep at night.I see Healey is starting to get his face in the local papers again with his false smile,he must think its ok now for him to come out of hiding now a few of HIS friends have resigned,maybe a further set of questions under oath for them all would really get the knives out.

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  8. Are we to conclude from this that Amy Rushforth has had a ‘letter’ informing her that she too is under investigation? If this is why she lost her cabinet seat then we should know and she should go! How can we find out if this is the case? Labour are covering each other’s backs again! This lot need to go and let the electorate decide. It’s the only way to reinstate any confidence.

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  9. Imagine for a second that you were a victim of CSE in Rotherham, hard to do I know but stay with me. You see the same old faces looking back at you still in their overpaid councillor positions, would you feel that you could trust them to help you. I am damn sure I would not, then you see the damning report on South Yorkshire police, and remembering Wright telling you that he has put everything in place to protect you and other victims. Would you trust them to protect you? Where are all these prosecutions that SYP keep bleating on about, I don’t remember seeing any court cases. All we, and the poor victims, keep hearing is the same old rhetoric from the same old tired liars. Until the whole of the Labour council stands down, police officers who deliberately ignored and covered up CSE in Rotherham are prosecuted for gross negligence and councillors who can be proven to have known and did nothing are also prosecuted no Rotherham youngster will feel that they are being taken seriously. We need to keep up the pressure at our local council meetings and at RMBC meetings on these despicable people who purport to represent us. You should all investigate your local councillors as I have done it is surprising what you find out. Dinnington and Anston have a lot to answer for when it comes to councillors knowing about CSE we have two ex-Lord mayors, councillor Wardle and ST John both at the 2005 seminar on CSE. Councillor Burton elected by the leader and deputy leader in May 2005 as senior adviser to Wright with councillor Havenhand as adviser then senior adviser. Simon Tweed adviser to Wright 2008-2010. Falvey Havenhand and Tweed at a meeting with Wright discussing a major report on CSE. It is incumbent on the people of Dinnington and Anston to clear this nest of vipers out.
    Dave Smith

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    • I take my hat to you Dave,you are a true warrior,no wonder they (THE LIEBOUR MACHINE,we know best,keep on paying your council tax for our wage’s and pensions so we at the top can keep lying and suppresing you into believing that we have your best intrests at heart,we will look after the packistani peodphiles because the vote for us) do not like normal law abiding people.THE LABOUR PARTY IS JUST ABOUT TO PUT THE COFFIN LID ON ITSELF,if it doe’s not check out every Rotherham MP,Council senior staff who were involved,sorry for going on but I like so many Rotherham people are so digusted at the cover up at top level.

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  10. Healey has really shown himself to be the dark horse, we all knew about Barron’s and MacShane’s antics but Healey has never shown his true colours……that is until now!

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  11. Healey wants his ‘team’ around him to get him elected next year,supposedly a secret poll shows Wentworth and Dearne falling to his opposer Caven Vines.

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  12. Dave – Keep the pressure up at local meetings! Well that is what we are attempting to do at Anston – But – The puppet Chairman John Ireland just closes the meetings when the questions hit the mark – Maybe he should be questioned for aiding the cover up of Child Sexual Exploitation.

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  13. Sue Ellis is no bully she speaks her mind and is not popular because of it, needless to say that is why she is labelled a bully. She is one of the few honest, upright and hard working councillors who is often discredited by her colleagues for it. Sue is a popular councillor in her ward

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  14. If stop and look at what’s happening here. You will see the ones on that seminar and children’s scrutiny panel that are still serving Councillors are being put on the back bench in the hope they will be out of the lime light and it will all go away. They are still Councillors most have not had the labour ticket removed they still want to maintain the balance of power.
    The reduction of the Cabinet was for the sole purpose of keeping the balance of power to prevent UKIP Councillors grabbing Cabinet posts nothing to do with saving money purely crafty political manuvers
    But I can tell them it won’t go away they can’t hide
    As fare as Healey’s alleged antics are concerned then he has opened the door for them to come back and be given the jobs back
    Also if the reports in the press about him wanting to block the Jay report are not true as he claims then why has he not taken legal action to clear his name on this
    It will all come out in time

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  15. No one round my area is going to vote Labour this time. We feel abandoned and ashamed we share a constituency that includes any part of Rotherham!

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  16. I agree with Anonymous, 7.07am. When the truth eventually comes out about Sue Ellis, who to my mind is the best councillor ever to sit on Rotherham Council, many of the bloodletting lynch mob will regret ever putting a critical comment about her on this blog. I have always thought that it best to establish the facts before hanging anyone. It seems however that there are many contributers on here who are too thick and bigoted to understand what I am talking about. Please don’t take this comment as me being supportive of this Labour Council or any of the those who are culpable.

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  17. It’s very telling that Peter Thirlwall has come out to defend his “friend ” Susan Ellis. Readers may be interested to learn that our Peter was also at the seminar on CSE in 2005 in which Prof Jay says ” No one who attended that seminar could have been left in doubt about the extent of child abuse taking place”

    So Mr Thirlwall have you apologised to the 1400 ? Hmmm funny that!

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    • Several weeks ago he said that he was going to let us all know what he did on this issue. The readers of Rotherham Politics are still waiting.

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  18. Anonymous
    For your information
    List Of serving Councillors who attended the Seminar
    Stone(Chair) Ellis, McNeely, Smith, Turner, Wellbourne, Wooten, Wyatt, Swift, Havenhand, Gosling.
    Ex Councillors
    Barron, Boys, Derby, Davis, Hall, Hodgkiss, Jack, Nightingale, Pickering, Robinson, P.A Russell, StJohn, Thirwell, Wardle, Senior, Burke
    For the record
    Turner is now a UKIP Councillor who was the one mentioned in the report as the only Councillor to take his concerns with the Late Micheal Clark to Stone, Sonia Sharp, And Mike Cuff who told them ti keep quiet as it could jeopardise a council and Police investigation aprox a year after arrests were made so he thought that was that. And he is the only One of them to go on record to the press and radio.

    The members on the children’s scrutiny board at July 2005 were
    Ann Russell, Shaukat Ali, Colin Barron, Barry Dodson, Barry Kaye, Pat Lee, Neil license, Rose McNeely, Amy Rushforth, John Swift.
    Guest. Georgina Boyes,
    Guest. Shaun Wright.
    Plus. Rev A Isaacson, Mr p Lenningham, Mr S Radford, Miss S Underwood, Mr J Dalton

    So make your own guess

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  19. Hello you two cowards hiding behind your pseudonyms. Since I have done nothing wrong I have no need to apologize. I also do not use what happened to these poor as a way of settling old scores. My advice to both of you is to never sit on a jury, you wouldn’t be fit. I have told you before I will not be bullied and will publish my account at the time of my choosing. In the meantime perhaps you could try and be patient or at the very least produce the evidence that prof. Jay used to arrive at her statement; this is not a race so lets make sure we get the full story before making any accusations.

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    • tut tut calm down Peter, you know very well why we post under anonymously, it’s a well known fact that you were thrown out of the Labour Party for bullying and threatening other Councillors. and while we at it since you are the white knight defending Ellis, she too was being investigated for bullying but she lost her seat in the middle of the investigation. So Labour swept it under the carpet.

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  20. Wyatt and Ellis both in the Cabinet meeting to present the Jay report when questioned and pressured by. UKIP Councillors admitted attending the seminar and to knowing what was going on but was told to keep quiet by Stone which they did as good faithful Labour Councillors always do
    Like at the last Council meeting All voted for a motion before they knew what it was.
    So if they knew why didn’t the rest who attended know may be Rodger told them to go to sleep
    So come stop insulting peoples intelegence

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    • “Wyatt and Ellis…was told to keep quiet by Stone which they did…” That’s exactly what you said John Turner did. Why was it ok for him to do that but not Wyatt and Ellis?

      While we’re on about who knew what, you don’t seem to know much at all. I’ve said it before and will say again that you are completely out of your depth. Re the SYPA meeting that you attended on 27 May 2005 where you voted against the suggestion by the Association of Police Authorities that police authorities should appoint a lead member/link member for child protection issues, you have proven in radio interviews that you didn’t actually know what you were voting for. You clearly think you were voting for a dedicated police officer when in fact the suggestion was that there should be a lead MEMBER i.e. councillor. That member could have been you and we will never know what a difference such a lead member could have made to child protection in S.Yorkshire because you voted against it.

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  21. Caven, John Turner has nothing to hide from attending the seminar but he went to see the Chief Exec about a completely separate matter, not about the seminar.

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  22. You was their then at that meeting was you Peter good then you can tell us all what you know you was at the seminar so you had no doubt what was going on but kept quiet like all the rest
    Now you are privy to the meeting between Clark, Turner, Stone, Sharp,and Cuff but still kept quiet
    Come on Peter the plot thickens.

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  23. Caven, I know you can’t write but I thought you could at least read. I’ve explained several times what I am going to do about the seminar so please try and keep up
    Anonymous 10.25pm. wrong again. I was suspended from Labour Group, without a proper hearing, for bullying one of the knobhead councillors who are continually being criticized on this blog. I threw out of the Labour Party to stand for election against that criminal Denis MacShane and no, I don’t know why you post under a pseudonym unless it’s to cover up your hidden agenda. Why can’t you be man or woman enough to stand by what you say under your own name.

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  24. Robin
    Please provide the evidence of which way I voted
    Only then can you accuse me of voting for or against
    And being out of my depth when it referred to a member their was independent members on the SYPA who by the way was not elected but chosen by committee
    And will repeat slowly so you can try and let it sink in for the 10th time.
    The Chief Constable M Hughes at the time suggested that the Authority Should not specifically appoint such a member as it was part of Specialist Crime Services.

    Also it was thought that as the South Yorkshire Authorities had set Children Safeguarding Boards in place and police officers and a cross partners were on it’s make was more than met the recommendations of the Association of police Authority’s
    And the recommendations of the Chief Constable was accepted by the majority

    And I very much doubt I would have chosen as the only independent elected member on the SYPA
    At that time as RMBC was not happy at having me on their but was forced to have an independent councillor in place of one of their own labour members and I am sure Cllr Reg Littleboy would have stopped that.
    Now Robin that’s the last time I try to explain to you

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    • Caven, each time you make a statement you merely confirm that you are out of your depth. I am well aware of the make-up of the Police Authority (17 members, 9 of which were councillors, 3 magistrates and 5 members of the public). However, you clearly believed that you were being asked to agree a child protection police officer – I know, I heard you on Radio Sheffield).

      As for providing evidence as to which way you voted. Simply put, I don’t need to. If you thought there was a need for a child protection lead member and voted for it you would have asked for your minority vote to be recorded. Any fool knows that! You didn’t and therefore the record shows that you agreed not to appoint a lead member for child protection. You seem big on the idea of guilt by association (apart from when it applies to you).

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      • “As for providing evidence as to which way you voted. Simply put, I don’t need to.”

        In the interest of fairness, yes you do actually. Or do you think it’s ok to level an accusation against someone without evidence?

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  25. Peter it’s not that I can’t write it’s my disability that makes it difficult for me to understand if the words I write are the correct ones.
    So Peter please don’t drop to the standards of some of your former colleges with personal insults and disregard for some ones handicap. Just be great full you didn’t have to try and overcome such a handicap every day I know you are better than that.

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  26. Revsimcop
    I don’t know what Cllr Turner said exactly so I will not try and say
    I know he was interviewed by the press on the subject so I am sure it will be printed some ware in one of them.
    I personally believe from talking to Cllr Turner on the subject that he did what he thought was the right thing to do by going with his then party’s leader Cllr Clark with there concerns to the leader of the council Rodger Stone the head of children’s services Sonia Sharp and the Chief Exec Mike Cuff and at the time believed these three explanation of events.

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  27. Cavin, if you are genuinely dyslexic I sincerely apologize, However if you are simply not very intelligent, it’s not your fault, but you should not be leading your party and should UKIP take power of the Council next year, you most certainly should not be the leader of the Council.
    By the way Cavin it’s simple, don’t pick on me and I wont pick on you.

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    • I don’t know Mr Vines personally but reading his profile one cannot conclude that he is unintelligent or less intelligent than a few of the bloggers on this sight. His profile shows he has an MA in mechanical engineering and his work history indicates to me at least he deserves more respect than silly schoolboy pokes at his disability. It takes real guts to have achieved an MA in Mechanical Engineering with the kind of disability Mr Vines has…. I would rather have someone who couldn’t spell acting for me than some of his critics on this blog. Play the ball and not the man gentlemen…. Stick to the subject , try some humility and bring your minds back to the enormous problem of CSE in Rotherham.

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  28. Anon, the evidence is that the minutes show that it was agreed. No dissent was recorded, therefore Caven can be considered to have voted with the majority. He should know the rules. i was taught that on a TUC course 25 years ago!

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      • @R Wilde no it isn’t, which is why anyone who is au fait with democracy and collective responsibility knows to register their minority report if they disagree with the majority decision (it really is basic stuff this). Caven Vines didn’t do that so the record shows he supported the majority decision. I wouldn’t beat him for that but he seems all too eager to beat others for their decisions of 9 years ago. I wish we could move on and all local politicians could work together to try to put things right.

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    • I’m glad you think it’s funny, Caven. Have you worked out yet whether it was a member or a police officer you were voting for? Is it common for you to not understand what you are voting for? It is truly worrying that you appear to be s completely out of your depth and resort to joking about being on a bus in 1966 when challenged over your record on child protection or your competence as a councillor..

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