Rother Valley UKIP Candidate on Sky News – Labour calls it “Car Crash Interview”

Interesting! A training need, perhaps?

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“A UKIP candidate tells Sky News that the people of Rotherham are afraid of immigrants living in the area ”  says Labour Party

Prospective UKIP candidate Alan Cowells interviewed by Kay Burley for Sky News. (Our Kev gets a mention)

Points scoring by attempting to make Cowells looking incompetent, or an incite into UKIP’s racist points of view ?

You decide …

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59 thoughts on “Rother Valley UKIP Candidate on Sky News – Labour calls it “Car Crash Interview”

  1. The guy is still well worth voting for considering the self-serving, useless “Labour” incumbent. Exactly what has Labour done for the constituency but drag it further and further into the mire? Ukip is an upstart outfit still finding its feet and understandably struggling to find high calibre candidates. But Labour is a dinosaur and has no credibility whatsoever.

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    • He was only telling the truth. Rotherham people need to realise this, and they are, he will get my vote all the way. I wouldn’t vote for a party that has allowed our children, grand children to be subjected to the horrific crimes that they have. and deny they knew anything about it.

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  2. No one with any intelligence would subject themselves to a Sky interviewer. They are mindless idiots whose agenda is just to stir things up for effect.

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  3. Allen Cowles did well considering he is fairly new to the political arena and Kay Burley is a seasoned journalist. Her job, along with other journo’s is to probe and be a PITA to politicians.
    As for being a ‘Car Crash’ interview I would suggest Labour supporters should encourage their candidates to face ordinary voters instead of packing rooms and halls with their sycophants and answer real questions from real people.

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  4. To describe it as a car crash is being kind. What a load of absolute twaddle from an ill-informed xenophobe. I don’t live a million miles from Cowles and I don’t know any elderly people who are afraid to go to town because of immigrants. I have elderly relatives and neighbours who go shopping in town on a daily basis. Why on earth would anyone be afraid of hearing foreign languages as Cllr Cowles claims? The only times my mother has been afraid in our town centre has been when it has been invaded by far right beer-swilling thugs. However, I was pleased to learn that UKIP policy is to (absolutely) ring-fence the NHS and childrens services. Someone just needs to tell Nigel Farage! The only positive thing I can say about Cllr Cowles is he is ever so slightly less inept than Jane Collins.

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    • I have several elderly neighbours who have stopped shopping in Rotherham town centre. The generally run-down and dismal feel of the place has discouraged some, but the recent mass influx of East Europeans to the town has also had it’s effect. There is a growing fear of street crime, especially pick pocketing and purse theft and, for many elderly people, Rotherham now feels intimidating and alien. It is not xenophobic to have legitimate concerns about the impacts of uncontrolled mass immigration, especially on council budgets, housing, schools and local healthcare services. Mr Cowells did a good job in calmly articulating those concerns.

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    • These kind of comments are precisely why the cse was able to flourish and children were sytematically abused. They were not listened to and ridiculed when telling the truth. Mr Symonds , ask yourself if your Mother or anyone else told you they felt intimidated by the conduct of immigrants would you be prepared to listen and investigate or would you have a ready prepared answer. I would be prepared to lay a bet.
      I am a old Rotherhamite who like thousands of others has permanent residency in another country. If we break the law we can be deported , I don’t generally hear deportees bleating ‘racist’.

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  5. You don’t have to stay up for this Rik. I’ll make my comment in the morning. And no it wasn’t a good training exercise just very revealing.

    Let’s be honest it was an awful interview and a car crash of epic proportions. Ridiculously so. UKIP’s talent pool is obviously as shallow as their policies.

    I’m not surprised really. Like I often say UKIP shout a lot but offer little and when questioned and are not up to the task – so short on solutions as well. And not knowing the details of your main policy. How embarrassing.I thought he would know the local immigration figures – he’s so obsessed with the issue.

    As for ‘old people’ being afraid to go down town. How dare he speak for me and my friends – being oldies. When I go down town all I see are countless oldies like me. Maybe Mr Cowells just conducts his research in the County Borough? I hear they have ‘certain opinions’ there. (I’m only going on what I have been told – the place looks a dump)

    On a personal note I’ve been interviewed in the past by Ms Burley a few times; believe me she’s a pussy cat compared to many. She prepares you well – and gives you an insight first. God help him when the big boys and girls get hold of him.

    Then again perhaps UKIP will accuse Sky News of being part of a Labour plot; or in the pockets of the council like the Tizer? After all it’s their / Mr Farage’s usual M/O whenever caught out.

    A nice little soundbite at the end though – so good at soundbites not policy are UKIP. But as for the rest – oh dear oh dear oh dear.

    SKT xxxx

    PS: I hope it’snot his stall; the fashions are so not up to date; a bit like UKIP really.

    Happy New Year.

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  6. Yet another open goal missed by UKIP! Rother Valley Labour are so thin on the ground they are desperate. Barron and the local clique have decimated the membership and the amount of activists. All UKIP had to do was select someone decent and they would have walked it. I am afraid they have repeated mistakes demonstrated in the recent PCC elections! Shame because Barron deserves to go. By the look of it we have a choice of dumb and dumber!

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  7. Rothervalley is the 4th favourite place for UKIP to take from Labour. The Labour apologists can throw the muck at UKIP as much as they like, but it is the people who will decide and they are in for a rude awakening. I certainly am not intimidated from visiting Rotherham, but after my visit last April, I wont be going back for a long time, it had nothing to offer me. It is about time our Union leaders represented the British worker or unions will become history.

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  8. A recurring theme noticeable in these blogs to any fair minded person is the seething aggression to anyone other than Labour supporters. Ordinary common sense tells me that in view of present Labour councils long standing mess , some bloggers would do well to keep a lower and more humble profile with their comments. I don’t live in Rotherham (someone will attack me for that ) but frankly I would be more afraid of aggressive Labour supporters than the immigrants.
    It is nonsense to say that elderly people are not intimidated. Watching any documentary on the subject tells a different story. They are fearful because they know RMBC and Police are not able or won’t deal with the hard stuff.
    I like your blogs Sally but honestly people who live in the less affluent places in Rotherham may tell a different story and need to be listened too without fear of being rubbished or made to feel they are whingers.
    When I visit my old home town in Sheffield I dare not get out of the car and I am not easily frightened.

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  9. It is wrong to say this interview was a car crash, what it did however was to show how politicly naive UKIP are. He should have done his research but unless you are a seasoned campaigner it is an easy mistake to make, don’t forget Milliband forgot to talk about the economy during his last conference speech before the election. A Labour councillor has just been suspended for doing a spoof tweet on Cameron’s road poster, she said she did not realise that the picture she put on was the rail road into Auschwitz. No one is infallible and I am sure there will be worse interviews than this during the election. Don’t even bother attempting to accuse me of being a UKIP supporter I believe in being fair. I also believe it is time for Sir Nutkin to do one.
    Dave Smith

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    • Dave,
      Be mindful of how many UKIP people in Dinnington voted for you in the last election in which you won, before mentioning the word fair !!!!

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  10. I knew exactly what Allen was saying and Kay Burley should be pulled over the coals for not being unbiased I watched her for most of the day in Rotherham and her attitude to be quite honest stinks she interviewed hardly any of the public and to be quite honest she gave Sarah Champion a lot more respect than both Allen and Caven Vines who she also interviewed. I am not surprised the elderly are are frightened i know younger people who feel intimidated the town is becoming a ghost town as the eastern europeans mainly the Roma’s dont walk about in ones and two’s they hang about in gangs. I would also question the figure of only 8% immigrant population in Rotherham WHO gave this info bet it was RMBC as they probably want to hide the fact that they’re flooding the town with foreigners
    I for one will be voting UKIP and so are a lot of my friends.

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  11. @ lovedinnington… If, as you say, there is intelligent debate on immigration I don’t understand why you feel insults work better than debate. In my view it does not help your cause.

    In the country I reside where immigrants like myself are a vital part of the economy there is a balance between numbers , housing, jobs and language. Just ordinary common sense and fairness to both immigrants and nationals. It has always worked well here and people integrate better. True racism is not tolerated as a whole and easier to deal with and punish when it does happen…
    Unlimited immigration fosters unneccessary conflict between races who could live respectfully and harmoniously under a properly controlled immigration policy….
    Firstly it must be admitted that Britain has a problem ( everybody knows it without being racist) and a fairer and more realistic policy put in place for a respectful, fairer society.
    The present system breeds vigilantes of every race.

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  12. Allen’s estimate of Eastern Europeans in Rotherham was a lot closer than Labour MP John Healey
    When on the Sunday Politics Show. When he said their was 126 Eastern Europeans in Rotherham when at the time the official no was over 4000 but an estimated true figure being nearer 6000
    But funny you never here Labour supporters remembering or mentioning that do we

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  13. I was in Rotherham yesterday, somewhere I do not like to visit, but as most of the Halifax banks have closed in our communities I had to visit.. I have never been afraid to go anywhere, I could go in any pub ,shop ,community hall, in Rotherham at one time and feel safe. Rotherham town centre is the only place I visit and have to take my glasses off and have my hands out of my pockets. the aggression is Rotherham town centre is there and plain to see. it is not ours anymore.

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  14. The problem in and for Britain Linda is that we as a nation are locked into Treaties that forbid us to take any actions to control our porous borders. Regulation No 492/2011 on freedom of movement for workers within the Union. Directive 2004/38/EC on the right of EU citizens and their family members to move and reside freely within the territory of the member states.
    Unlike New Zealand where strict criteria apply before you can live and work:
    http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/work/workperm.htm

    I agree with your statement ‘The present system breeds vigilantes of every race’.

    We are well off topic so I’ll return to it. Allen Cowles-v-Kay Burley/Sky News could be considered as either How Not To Conduct An Interview or an Inexperienced Politician Caught On The Backfoot.
    I know Allen reads this blog so perhaps he will post his version of the interview?
    In the interests of fairness and balance of course.

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  15. We don’t have integration in this country we have ghettoisation, different ethnic groups live in different ghettoes in our towns and cities; Rotherham and Sheffield are prime examples of this. It began in the 50s when the government wanted people to emigrate here because of the aftermath of the war; but the people did not want them and for their own safety they stuck together in one area. This eventually fostered resentment especially in third generation; then we had the fiasco of joining what was then the Common Market that has lead us to the so called EU which in turn has exacerbated the immigration problems. If the whole of Europe had the same welfare system and health system that we have in this country then open borders might be possible. They do not so of course the people of this country resent some one coming from Eastern Europe who they perceive; rightly or wrongly, to be sponging off us. This then leads to the situation of CSE in Rotherham and other towns and cities where the main culprits are Pakistani heritage men; this then takes us to the situation where the cowards within our councils shy away from dealing with it because of the race aspect. In order for us to be able to have full and proper discussion on the problem of immigration and integration I believe that the only way is to suspend all immigration until the problems we face is overcome. I believe we should never have joined the common market, it is just a club for big business, this can be seen by workers from Eastern Europe being deliberately targeted for recruitment which helps to drive down wages and living standards in this country. They are off to sunny Spain to recruit nurses for the NHS, this is the government that sacked hundreds of our own nurses. The people who come here are not to blame, given the same set of circumstances the majority of us would do the same for our families; the politicians of all shades are to blame.

    We should not expect any different from the Tories, attack the welfare state and bring down the NHS are the norms for these capitalists, no point in even discussing the Libdems. Labour have abandoned the people who worked so hard and gave up their lives to build the party for big business and the middle class vote. Is it any wonder that UKIP are able to claim that they represent the working class, this is some what of a joke of course. You can’t on the one hand claim Thatcher as your hero and on the other claim to represent the workers. So what is the answer? One could be that the working class reclaims the Labour party for it’s own and re-adopts true Labour values; it would take a while but it is not impossible. I do not, unlike some people, claim to have the answer that is why I am attempting to open up an unfettered dialogue.
    Dave Smith

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    • Good post Dave….. Seeing the problem and being able to articulate it well is the beginning of the solution. Suspending all immigration until a fair and workable solution is put in place would be start…. Is there any chance of that happening and is there support for it across the political spectrum?

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      • Linda;
        As I posted previously we cannot suspend immigration into Britain under current EU obligations. IF we had politicians with guts and courage we might be able to stem the flow. IF we politicians who are not hell bent on pretending they had our interests at heart while at the same time cosying up to Merkel and the EU Commission we might be able to reclaim some of our sovereign rights.
        We have’nt so we can’t.
        ‘is there support for it across the political spectrum?’ Short answer is no. The Labour party is fully committed to the EU. The Tories pretend they are’nt and the LibDems are not sure what they believe in but do tend to be pro EU.The Green party is pro EU.The SNP is pro EU.
        In Australasia, Canada and the USA they have strict immigrations policies we could and should adapt and adopt IMV.
        One of Labour’s own. Andrew Neather, a previously unheard-of speechwriter for Blair, Straw and Blunkett, popped up with an article in the Evening Standard in October 2009 which gave the game away.
        Immigration, he wrote, ‘didn’t just happen; the deliberate policy of Ministers from late 2000…was to open up the UK to mass immigration’.
        http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/pressArticle/83

        There you have it in a nutshell.

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    • Dave, this is a great post. You hit several nails firmly on the head particularly with regard to uniformity of labour movement within the EU being matched by uniformity of benefits across the EU. The fact that we have the former without the latter only goes to prove that the EU is a big business club in which workers are treated like commodities, shifted around at the whim of commerce and subject to wage slavery. The answer is to work with other left groups within the EU to address this and make the EU a just entity. The Greeks and Spaniards are on the case here. Effectively we need to bring other countries to the same level of equity as the UK (altho I say this with tongue firmly in cheek, given Tory attempts to destroy justice here and concentrate the UK’s wealth and power in the hands of their rich chums. They are, effectively, privatising the island with the acquiescence of their lib dem poodles but Labour is offering no alternative scenario to capitalist privatisation either). But UKIPs short-sighted “scrap overseas aid” stance is so misguided and contrary to the impulse to equalise wealth globally. People come here because they have aspirations. Why not help raise their aspirations in their own homelands? Like immigration, overseas aid needs better management rather than total scrapping.

      The actual numbers of immigrants is not a massive problem as yet. But it is a current problem when we still have mass unemployment here. So then we need to make sure every indigenous person has a decent job first – but then we need to pay decent wages in those jobs, to prevent fiscal and social poverty for lower paid workers. This is eminently do-able. A company employing 10 people on minimum wage, making a million pounds profit, would need to spend barely 3% of its profits to bring them all up to a living wage – peanuts, as long as we get away from the myopia of “profits at all costs”. A company willing to sacrifice minimal profit margins could maintain lower prices and so could still remain competitive and, with a happier, healthier workforce, would probably be even more productive as well. Every one wins.

      Bringing every minimum wage worker in the UK up to a living wage would also realise around £900 million in increased taxes for the exchequer. How much, in addition, would the benefits budget be cut if we got the 2.5 million unemployed working at decent wages and how much more would be raised in taxation? Having a happier, healthier workforce would also have a knock-on effect in reducing demand on the NHS. Britain is a sick country and much of that derives directly from social and economic injustice. This is not rocket science Mr Osborne! It’s called common humanity and common sense!

      Going back to immigration, ghettoisation is the problem not numbers. People in Herefordshire or Shropshire possibly don’t feel they are being swamped in the way Rotherham folk do. Its the concentration of numbers in small areas that raises tensions. Also, we need to ask whether, in the current climate, we can afford the additional strains on public services and infrastructure that unfettered immigration is bringing? That is an economic not a racist or xenophobic question. When the economy really starts to grow again we’ll be welcoming immigrant workers with open arms and we will probably need them! This all points to the fact that immigration needs to be managed rather than stopped altogether.

      A recurring theme is that it is the management of issues that is the problem. It makes you wonder why the political/ economic elite in the UK are so often inept. What do they teach at these public schools?! Mr Osborne is thick as mince and he is running the economy (into the ground). He has his head wedged so far up the banker’s backsides that he can’t see the solutions right in front of him. Madness!

      Actually, I should know what these public schools teach as I went to the same one as Mr Farage, (of whom I have no recollection btw!)

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  16. Linda – I think like many (Including one very vocal UKIP supporter from Sheffield who constantly berates me for being allegedly ‘a middle class rich so and so’ in the media – wrongly so) you should realize I do live in a ‘less affluent’ part of the Borough – – West Central – as my special housing needs and lifelong low income dictates. The town centre is on my doorstep. Indeed the town centre is my ‘scenic view’. (The Minster looks nice at night by the way) But I don’t see what Mr Cowles claims. I see a lot of things but not his soundbite visions.

    People on many blogs assume I reside, or I am from the ‘leafy suburbs, but being a Parson Cross born lass and bred (not affluent despite its name) and having mostly lived in Pitsmoor,Southey Green and on The Kelvin before I moved to Rotherham many years ago, I can assure you I am not affluent by a long way’. The nearest I get to green fields is when I visit my home city to watch my beloved Owls – and then I view the game cut price from the disabled stands – often in depression – as my needs dictate. Though I do journey to watch my friend play bowls in Bradgate Park now and again when my health allows.

    But back to to thread; Mr Cowles’ performance was awful, uninformed and ilinformed. And I am being polite. One of my many gripes with Labour is they never criticize or question their own. UKIP are exactly the same. It’s all the party line and we know best and have no weaknesses. A blind loyalty to any party does not impress – and neither do UKIP or the quality of many – but not all – of their candidates. (My opinion regarding Jane Collins is well known). I can see why UKIP always use Caven for quotes after that shambles of an interview.

    Like I said, if Mr Cowles can’t handle the pussycat Ms Burley wait while the big boys and girls get hold of him. And like I said the UKIP talent pool is very limited.

    As for the town centre being scarry- the only times I have been scared to go to the town centre was when the evil EDL came to town – though I did protest independently with my friends against them – – and where was UKIP then. Conveniently absent.

    SKT
    XXXX

    PS: Dave’s right – anyone who’s hero is Thatcher is not a friend of the working class – one of which I am – despite many taking my name as meaning I have a privileged background or existence.(Blame my Grannie for that – I was named after her). Little old me – posh. Cor blimey – II niva. lol.

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    • skt,
      you really are misinformed… I would think that you would be quite welcome to visit one of ukips monthly meetings at the three horseshoes, first Tuesday in the month. please try and attend and witness for your self true democracy. towing the party line is not in their dictionary. if someone disagrees, they show it with a vote. there has never been a vote that has seen every hand up, there is always split decision. it was noticed in the last council meeting that not all ukip councillors voted together…its called no strings… or DEMOCRACY.

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    • I read through my blog again and yes it does look like I was inferring you live in an affluent part of town… That wasn’t intended Sally, I don’t know where you live . The point I was trying to make is this; because you don’t find Rotherham intimidating doesn’t mean it is not …Some people here disagree because they are, or know of , old people, young and middle age folk who find it unsafe and increasingly so .The danger I see as an outsider engaging in this blog is, when anyone pops up their head and says ” I feel unsafe in Rotherham” they are talked down, ignored, or ridiculed…. Elderly people may be the best judges because they know Rotherham as it used to be. When I was a 15 year old I and my friends danced at the Odd Fellows on Friday/Saturday night.
      Conservative estimates are that 1400 children in Rotherham are living proof that Rotherham has become an unsafe place to live . Their fears must be addressed and investigated.
      Their concerns must be treated with respect and not be made to feel trouble causes or idiots or liars…
      It’s precisely that attitude of dismissal that Rotherham has human casualties of at least 1400 children it is unable to help. What I am trying to shout from the rooftops is this. It requires a sensitive human response to peoples fears and not just a political one.
      Why on earth would anyone in Rotherham look to politicians or police for help and even some agencies set for that purpose…
      Fortunately there are still a few compassionate folk who help redeem lives one at a time and it begins with listening and taking peoples fears seriously; something unknown to Rotherhams political elite.

      Now I say it again …. when I visit the town I was brought up in to see my old house and school and where my friends live… I and my adult children DARE NOT GET OUT OF THE CAR…… I hope someone is listening.

      On a less important note ; the interview with Mr Cowell , or rather rude interrogation that has the Labour squad tickled pink was a disgrace. The lass needs a few lessons herself. It’s normal courtesy to allow someone to answer the question in full to enable the voting public to judge for themselves at the ballot box. I hope Mr Cowell learns quick how to deal with the rudeness of his opponents.

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      • Nobody is ridiculing anyone who says they feel unsafe in Rotherham. In fact I can’t actually recall anyone on here saying that they don’t feel safe. If they did I would respect that. What I don’t respect is people like Cllr Cowles telling us that older people are scared to go into town (because they hear foreign voices) when it isn’t true and is just said to whip up fear and unrest.

        As someone on here has correctly pointed out, the elderly are the section of our community that visits the town more than any other.

        My mother used to go to the Oddfellows on Westgate. She’s 70 years old and she goes into town most days. She has no fear of foreigners nor has she ever had any untoward incidents in the town.

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  17. Coverup
    It’s also having the freedom to think for themselves and represent their constituents not made to follow their party masters like Labour Cllrs who are not allowed to think for them selves or say what they truly believe
    That’s what got Rotherham in the mess it’s in now Lemmings come to mind one goes over the cliff they all go over

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    • You don’t need to tow a party line to make a bad decision. You made a truly independent decision (as an independent councillor) to vote against a dedicated child protection member for the SY police authority. Or were you just going with the chief constable’s recommendation?

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  18. UKIP cllrs obviously pride themselves on not towing the party line. I would like to know if the ‘promises’ that Cllr Cowles gave that UKIP would (absolutely) ringfence spending on the NHS and childrens services were the party line or just something that fell out of his mouth when he was obviously floundering.

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  19. @robin symonds….. Robin correct me …. again ….if I am wrong but did you say that nobody on this blog has said they feel unsafe in Rotherham!!!!!!!…… Does it never occur to you that it may be possible that folk would never approach you with their concerns because they would just get the pre prepared spin… “because Mam is not scared nobody is”
    . Read the threads on this blog again and spot the clues and if that doesn’t work try asking someone who deals with elderly abuse. They are targets for theft and threatened when they complain . A well know fact…. I may be someone who boogied the night away with your Mam but seriously… I doubt we would do it now even if we were fit enough.
    You can’t seriously believe that abuse stopped with 1400 children can you.?

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    • Linda, we’re not talking about elder abuse. We are dealing with a UKIP councillor and Prospective Parliamentary Candidate who reports that his constituents who are elderly are afraid to go into town because they are scared of foreign voices! He isn’t saying that he’s spoken to anyone who has actually been attacked or even threatened. It doesn’t help to conflate the issue of child abuse with the reported fear of going into town by elderly residents. Believe it or not, Rotherham town centre is a relatively safe place with very little crime.

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  20. @ Robin Symonds
    ‘She’s 70 years old and she goes into town most days.’
    How many couples over 50 do you think visit Rotherham after 7pm most evenings? (Answers on a Postage stamp)
    During daylight hours Rotherham town centre is not a pretty sight and it is a brave soul who ventures out at night alone in that area.
    What has Rotherham town centre got to be proud of after more than 20 years of Labour control?
    Discounting the litter, fast food shops, betting shops and grotty pubs.
    A quiz question for contributors; Which is worse, a wet night in Rotherham or a wet night in Cleethorpes?

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    • Well, I don’t visit the town most evenings because there’s little reason for me to do so but when I do I never feel unsafe. I sometimes go in the Cutlers and New York Tavern on Westgate and walk home along Wellgate late at night and have never had any problems whatsoever.

      Actually, I think our town is a pretty sight. Lacking in shops but it isn’t an unattractive place and certainly much more attractive than Cleethorpes.

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      • @robin symonds… Oh dear Robin you certainly know how to ‘bob and weave’ and avoid debate on important topics. In my view had the little girl interviewer allowed the UKIP candidate to answer the question fully we made have had better insight into why he said what he did. Of course people are not afraid of foreign voices unless those voices are intimidating…Mr Cowell may also believe that if he were given the chance to explain….I suppose if you asked the elderly gentleman who was threatened and bullied for asking the ‘wrong’ question at one of the council meetings he would tell you a different story from the one you would like us all to believe . You may not remember Robin but proof of it was recorded on someone’s cell phone and submitted for proof to this blog sight. Those bullies were not shouting him a beer.
        Being a smart a… does not always equal wisdom and integrity and integrity does not come in designer suits and university degrees…..

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  21. For the politically savvy Labour bloggers on this sight who keep on insisting that Rotherham is a pretty and safe place for the elderly ‘ cos they never heard any complaints ‘ should try researching Ageuk.org.uk and click on older peoples forum Rotherham. It’s a bit of a paradox to me re the gall they have for giving flack to the new UKIP candidate for ‘not doing his homework’ .These seasoned ,self styled and vocal Labour policy experts don’t know what is happing in their own neck of the woods . Talk about the pot calling the kettle black….. Robin Symonds and Sally Kate could learn something just by attending the Ageuk Rotherham forum for the elderly meetings occasionally .Some people deserve a verbal kicking now and then eh !!!

    PS… I don’t think Mr Cowell would do any worse with the ‘big boys’ in the media than some of the revered Rotherham Labour leaders. I am not politically savvy and even I can see through them.
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  22. Linda, Cllr Cowles had more than 7 minutes to “explain himself!”

    If you are referring to the Boston Castle Labour party ward meeting I was present and the situation was very different to how it has been reported on here.The “elderly gentleman” was himself aggressive and his behaviour was reproachable. Do not be fooled by a few mobile phone images from outside the Town Hall. His behaviour inside the meeting was that of an aggressor IMO..I am not bobbing and weaving; this is my eye-witness account.

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    • Robin, Five against one elderly gentleman looks like intimidation to me in the regard to mobile phone coverage . Perhaps you have a different definition… There maybe other eye witnesses who want to comment.
      Back to the purpose of my blog. When old people say they are afraid in their home town ,denying it won’t make it go away. That is precisely why Rotherham has 1400 damaged children and Rotherham has yet to pay the bill for. On it goes…
      Haggling over stats of population figures may be political point scoring but more importantly it illustrates the damage that can be done by minorities to a community.
      . Also very important ( perhaps more so) it’s time Britain had a re think on their own part in allowing it’s children to be bombarded by erotica. Believe it or not Muslims would not allow their own children to be so exposed and it is rational to suppose that they despise us for it.
      In fairness, it’s true to say Rotherhams pensioners would also be afraid of white drug addled unemployed thugs who operate in gangs and need easy money for their habit . I almost got caught up in a violent altercation between kids who were robbing a kiosk in broad daylight in Sheffield when I was visiting…. A club that was used flew inches past my ear.

      May I just say for the record that my best friend is Syrian and raised Moslem…

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  23. Linda, that’s okay, No problem, Crossed wires.It happens.Hugs. xxxx

    Cover up, an invitation to visit a UKIP meeting? Sorry I will decline. I don’t do party politics I think independently issue by issue. That’s true independence! And that true democracy!. And that’s just me.

    Still like I said Mr Cowles interview was awful. Far worse than the one he did on the news when the EDL came to town and he didn’t mention he wasn’t just a voter but an elected member of UKIP. I have a long memory when it comes to people not being honest.

    An Rik. As an independent.Just a comment. How come you always try to put Robyn down. Others vere off thread a lot and say far worse things. It doesn’t look good for the independence of the site. Just a comment.

    SKT xxxx

    SKT xxxx

    Bet you all so glad I’m back out of hospital. Happy days.

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  24. I’d just like to make a comment or two on the population figures that have been discussed in this topic.
    The most reliable figures we have are from the 2011 census.
    For some purposes – such as discussing parliamentary elections, the individual constituency stats are more relevant that the Rotherham borough stats, and these can be found on page 4 of:

    Click to access Census%202011%20Constituency%20results%20%20Appendix%20RP13-20.pdf


    In summary, the White British Percentage of the constituency populations in 2011 was:
    Rotherham Constituency 86.6%
    Rother Vale Constituency 95.9%
    Wentworth and Dearne Constituency 96.9%
    Whist overall for England and Wales it was 80.5%

    2011 Census stats for Rotherham borough can most easily be found here:
    http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/jsna/downloads/file/38/rotherham_demographic_profile_-_2013
    (fig 1.9 on page 8)
    … and the borough-wide White British are shown as 91.9%
    I’d hazard that Ms Burley’s 8% figure was thus based on Rotherham borough stats, whilst Mr Cowles 14% was based on Rotherham constituency stats.
    Neither of these figures are relevant to Rother Valley where Mr Cowles is standing for parliament and where the figure for 2011 was 4%.
    (Mr Cooker’s “facts , roma population in Rotherham has increased from 0 in 2003/04 to 3,700 by 2011/12 the bulk in eastwood and ferham” is an RMBC estimate: http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/jsna/info/23/people/46/communities_of_interest/7 )

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      • Cooker,
        I wasn’t disputing your numbers, I was just trying to find a source for them. Perhaps I should have said “… appears to be an RMBC estimate”. But at the time it seemed fun to give the RMBC link to them when another contributor had written:
        ” I would also question the figure of only 8% immigrant population in Rotherham WHO gave this info bet it was RMBC as they probably want to hide the fact that they’re flooding the town with foreigners”. Which is of course utter nonsense – immigrants can chose to live where ever they like.
        Do you have the original source that explains how the estimated have been calculated? This increase is just not apparent in the 2001 / 2011 Census figures. .

        My real point was that none of this is important to the Rother Valley voter; we have few non-White British families in the constituency, and I’ve never come across a Roma family here.. Cowles clearly has no knowledge or understanding of the constituency he wishes to represent – and I need an alternative to Barron to vote for.

        I don’t go to Eastwood, or to Rotherham Town centre in the evenings. Why should I – it is far far easier for me to get to Sheffield,City centre and I have everything I want there. I live in what is essentially a Sheffield commuter suburb with lower council tax..
        But I do have some real understanding of the issue of Immigration.. I spend a lot of time in and around East London in areas where the non-White British population is around the 50% mark – depending on the borough, and I’ve spent many years being an immigrant myself – to other EU and non-EU countries.

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  25. Both Ms Burley and Mr Cowles appear unaware that we do have a Tory candidate in Roher Valley.
    http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/2015guide/region_yorkshire/
    Provides very useful information on the coming election, and tells us that:
    1. In Rother Valley, a Gareth Streeter is standing for the Tories. https://twitter.com/GarethBStreeter/ https://uk.linkedin.com/pub/gareth-streeter/40/825/6a2 – his tweets of 2 Jan confirm this..
    2. In Rotherham we have Seb Lowe
    3. In Wentworth and Dearner, Michael Naughton.,

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  26. Cooker,

    Looking around Eastwood only gives an insight in to what you see in Eastwood. And then what you see depends on what you are looking for. To paraphrase ‘a political fact is in the the eye of the beholder – or more precisely what they want to see and want you to believe.”

    What is the situation is the seat Mr Cowles wants to represent? That’s what he should have ‘researched’ – not presented his assumptions as fact. He got it wrong and left his defence open. I’m not a UKIP supporter but it happens to us all – he was out of his depth and drowned – I have done so before. Get over it. It was his performance that UKIP should worry about. Maybe he should stick to writing letters to the Tizer?

    SKT xxxx

    PS: I went to see Sheffield Wednesday beat Nottingham Forest 2- 0 yesterday today – a rare event a lately. Before we set off everyone in my family had a blue and white scarf on. I thought this is life. Everyone on our bus were committed Wednesday – ites and wore blue and white, I thought this is life. When we got to to the pub everyone was in blue and white and the scenes were heavenly. I thought this is life. When we got to the ground however I met many Forest fans in red and white and shared many a tale and good giggle. I thought this is life as it should be – multi hued. The point is – you have to search a little deeper to get the full picture. All isn’t exactly what you see at one given point in time.

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  27. When UKIP and others use the abuse in Rotherham for political gain. Jane Collins the UKIP parliamentary candidate did say on television that anyone still remaining a Labour Party member is complicit in child abuse, I find it hard to believe no other UKIP member, particually in the North West region knew what the guy in the link was up to. http://www.burytimes.co.uk/news/11622721.Former_Bury_UKIP_chairman_jailed_for_grooming_children_and_having_200_000_child_porn_images/?ref=mr

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    • Just glancing through some of the earlier, I wonder if the children of Bury can feel safe, if UKIP is active in the area, given what the guy above was allowed to do.

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  28. If such as UKIP is spreading the poison that old people are less safe in areas of more ethnic minorities then more are likely to believe it is true. I’m sure a number of older people don’t feel safe out at night in certain areas of the town, where the non white British population is negligable. Also a lot of older people may not like going into town at night through younger people’s behavior due to alcohol. I am a football fan, but I know some people don’t like being in town when there is a match on.
    As others have said, is it more likely that older people in Rotherham, are less inclined to go into the town centre because there is more of an ethnic mix, than a generation or so ago, or when say there is an EDL march?
    Without apartheid or ethnic cleansing in Rotherham, I’m not sure what exactly is being proposed by UKIP.

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