PM Programme and Police failures to tackle CSE!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b054t9hg#auto

BBC PM Prog 5.00pm today

Relevant story starts 13 mins in. It’s about large scale CSE in Sheffield, and the police response to it, which was eventually to close investigations down!

I am grateful to both our spotters of this interesting PM programme, thanks.

Another reader has brought the South Yorkshire Police’s Facebook Account to our attention, well worth a visit, thanks, Rik.

https://www.facebook.com/southyorkshirepolice

 

10 thoughts on “PM Programme and Police failures to tackle CSE!

  1. Well finally the totally criminal neglect of South Yorkshire Police is coming out, well done those former officer’s for speaking out. It’s time this force is disbanded and merge with another one, who will do thier job of protecting the public. Always thought it was bigger than Rotherham.

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    • Who should they merge with though?

      The cover up was systemic

      “The force’s(SYP) priorities at that time were mainly crimes including robbery, burglary and car crime due to mandatory targets set by the Home Office.” – from RR link

      In today’s Times we see a similar story as regards Rochdale/GMP

      “A shambolic police inquiry into a sex-grooming network whose members preyed on girls across three counties was left in the hands of one junior officer because such crimes were not a priority for one of Britain’s biggest police forces, it is revealed today.
      Mistakes made by Greater Manchester police exposed vulnerable Rochdale children to a further two years of abuse by a group of fast-food workers and taxi drivers of Pakistani origin.
      An inquiry report published today notes that a police “community impact” assessment seemed more concerned about the welfare of serial child abusers than the “threat and risk of harm” they posed to so many young girls.
      As a result, staff at two Rochdale kebab shops where exploited children routinely traded sex for alcohol, food and cigarettes were warned by police “of the potential of local community stigmatisation” against them and “residents of south Asian heritage”…..”

      ….
      The report notes that the “main focus and priorities” of police at the time were burglary, robbery and car crime, in part due to a target-driven culture that was imposed by the government.”

      http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/crime/article4380525.ece

      So plod’s actions and inactions were dictated by Home Offices priorities of which community cohesion was clearly over-riding; the terrible things being done to the victims came a very poor second to “the potential for local community stigmatisation” .

      So the buck stops with the Home Office and the last government it seems

      “The extent to which the former Labour government tried to play down criminality and extremism among British Muslims for fear of undermining community cohesion is revealed today, as the fallout from the Rotherham sex abuse scandal continued.

      The publication last week of Professor Alexis Jay’s report into grooming by Muslim gangs in Rotherham has triggered widespread criticism over how much the council and the police knew about the abuse more than a decade ago.

      The Independent on Sunday can reveal that a House of Commons committee is to investigate what Tony Blair’s Home Office knew about the Rotherham scandal as far back as 2001 after more evidence emerged about his government’s efforts to pacify Muslim communities.”

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rotherham-child-sex-abuse-scandal-labour-home-office-to-be-probed-over-what-tony-blairs-government-knew–and-when-9701861.html

      These are shocking allegations because what we apparently have here is the wholesale betrayal of the very people that the Labour movement was originally established to protect from vicious exploitation in mills and factories

      “While there is no suggestion that Mr Blunkett or his close advisers knew about the 2002 Rotherham report, sources said the Government was obsessed with keeping the Muslim community onside – even if it meant sidestepping serious criminality and extremism.”

      One hopes that this HOC investigation will be concluded soon, and without fear or favour

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      • Parsonage, you are quite right and all these problems have been caused by POLITICAL INTERFERENCE & CONTROL of policing in this country. The previous government were obsessed with targets nationally, this government have created total political interference and control by creating PCC’s. Every police area is different and requires different and varied policing. If the Home Office are demanding targets for car crime, burglary etc. and at the same time limiting budgets, then there is little wonder certain offences fall by the wayside. Don’t blame the police, blame the politicians of all parties. Simples!

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  2. it’s quite remarkable how Sheffield City Council seem to escape any criticism though (and were not mentioned on the PM programme), when in Rotherham the Council get a significant share of the blame. Child safeguarding is a joint responsibility, not just the responsibility of the Police. Maybe all places need a Jay/Casey type report…………

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  3. Doesn’t this put Clive Betts, chairman of the Communities and Local Government Committee in a difficult position?

    As Chairman of the Communities and Local Government Committee investigating child sexual exploitation there is a higher expectation of him to be scrupulous in his scrutiny of child protection measures in his own constituency and Sheffield generally. It now seems that the problem in his backyard may be as big as, if not bigger than Rotherham’s.
    If he is sitting on a problem similar to that in Rotherham then is he really in a position to grill and criticise other authorities?

    What do the other current Sheffield MP’s know? Have they done enough to satisfy themselves that proper, rigorous steps are in place. What did the former Sheffield MPs know? What steps did they take to deal with this problem and to ensure the children of Sheffield were kept safe.
    The child sexual exploitation problem in Sheffield is mentioned in the 2004/2005 seminar.
    In his capacity as Chairman of the Communities and Local Government Committee investigating child sexual exploitation Clive Betts regularly refers to the 2004/2005 seminar. We must assume that as Chairman of the Committee investigating child sexual exploitation he has actually read it and is aware from his reading that there may be, or was a similar problem in his own constituency.

    If he is to have any credibility in the role of chairing this extremely sensitive committee then the public needs to know that he has taken the steps to satisfy himself that the problem is being properly.dealt with that he expects those brought before him to have met.
    If Clive Betts can’t show that he has lived up to the standards he expects of others, if he can’t show that the basics of child protection are being carried out in his area of influence, then not only is his personal credibility questionable but the credibility of this committee and this process is undermined.
    The big problem for Clive Betts is that the common denominators in what is looking like a county wide scandal are
    1. the same police force – serious questions must now be asked about the competence of the South Yorkshire Police senior leadership team, and
    2. the same CPS – the Chief Crown Prosecutor for South Yorkshire has some serious questions to answer.
    Louise Casey makes it clear in her report that simply relying on assurances from the police is not acceptable. She points out that the way South Yorkshire Police have dealt with theses cases and the victims is not acceptable. Clive Betts must now show that he has not simply accepted assurances from South Yorkshire Police, the CPS, council leaders and council officers.

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    • “Doesn’t this put Clive Betts, chairman of the Communities and Local Government Committee in a difficult position?”

      You’d certainly think so

      I remember that when Pickles was expounding on the Casey Report and outlining its consequences for Rotherham Betts gets up and asks the minister to reassure him, and the House and the world and his dog at large, that there was nothing party political about the scandal.

      Interesting that he should felt it incumbent on himself to ask the question.

      Anyway Pickles assured his Honourable Friend that many Labour authorities were good authorities in which such dereliction could never have occurred. I wonder if Betts was satisfied, because it sounded like a sting in the tale.

      “The big problem for Clive Betts is that the common denominators in what is looking like a county wide scandal are
      1. the same police force – serious questions must now be asked about the competence of the South Yorkshire Police senior leadership team, and
      2. the same CPS – the Chief Crown Prosecutor for South Yorkshire has some serious questions to answer.”

      Indeed, but this is a country wide issue, not simply one for Yorkshire. As we see from the Times today the picture looks very similar in Manchester, and the same pattern has started to emerge in the West Midlands over the last few months.

      The police operate under command, their priorities( eg to concentrate on burglary, robbery, car crime) were set by the Home Office. They would surely never have turned such a blind eye to such a spate of appalling criminality were it not the case that they knew they could cover their backs; that they were operating in accord with the wishes of their ultimate masters.This is especially so as this crosses force boundaries. So there must be a focus on the Home Office and Home Office Ministers here.

      About time the investigation I referred to previously was finalised and its findings placed in the public domain

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      • Once again Parsonage, you are absolutely right. The politicians in the Home Office have a lot to answer for. They are the ones who, in the past have had these crimes covered up because of the Pakistani involvement. They are the ones who create the laws which have given these criminals a free hand to do what they want all in the name of culture and religion. It’s time they woke up to the fact, they are to blame. There is no more “blinkered” department within the whole of Government than the Home Office!

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