One way or the other this isn’t going to end pretty

We are slowly slowly coming towards a bit of a stand off here.

For most of my taxi driving colleagues this whole anger against the council is against a massive escalation in costs. For those who see an opportunity, they’re using that drivers anger and telling them they must protest against the council – because they know if the drivers don’t then if they’re base owners then they potentially face going out of business.

For all those people posting on social media and blogs in favour of CCTV, drivers do not want to pay for it. The majority of drivers do not believe they should nor do they believe that they make enough money to pay for it either. This might seem difficult to your average person with an opinion on the Internet to understand but purely from an economical point of view, CCTV in taxis in Rotherham makes no financial sense. It’s an unnecessary cost. Having it brings ‘other’ benefits like the safety of both the driver and passengers buy purely from a financial side, if you can’t afford it then why have one put in?

The majority of people who post on social media and blogs want this CCTV whether or not they even use taxis. The families of those CSE victims have asked for CCTV (and quite rightly so). The vast majority of drivers are saying to the council ‘you want us to have CCTV, you pay for it’. And I can honestly say that every customer i’ve spoken to who’s got in my taxi has either said they don’t want to be on CCTV or if it has to be there then they don’t see why the council aren’t paying for it.

So this is probably what’s going to happen. Some drivers will grudgingly accept CCTV. Myself, I’d rather focus on its benefits then dwell too long on the costs or negatives.

Some won’t and they will pack up and give up the industry. Others will get together and launch legal action against the council. Because they feel enough is enough. It’s getting too expensive to be able to drive a taxi here. Certainly, the days of the part time taxi driver will be over. The only way to make it pay will be to work full time (any regulations about monitoring of hours will be fought aswell – we’re self employed, the council has no right to tell anyone self employed when they can and can’t work).

One of the articles on the Sheffield Star website said the council were in ’embryonic’ discussions with other local councils about them taking on the new legislation. Which at the moment is a huge mistake.

It’s not launching here with any great fanfare so why attempt it anywhere else until it has been shown it can work here first? There are already rumours about taxi drivers going on strike in Barnsley and all that’s triggered that is the ’embryonic discussions’. Certainly, the more drivers who get annoyed and join any legal action the worse these councils will look if they lose it.

And then the future. Imagine the council do win. Everything is ratified. What will happen then is more drivers will pack up and leave the industry. They just won’t pay.

Some drivers don’t even want base owners to put the fares up to cover CCTV costs because they think they’ll also put the radio rent up. And this is where it starts to make a bit more sense.

Over 5 years the CCTV works out potentially at another £7 a week. For some taxi drivers that’s still too much. And before you start clicking those fingers and getting ready to respond with any vitriol, just remember this.

How many of you have changed your credit card or energy supplier or mobile phone contract to get a better deal? I’ve just changed my energy supplier from E-on to EDF and i’m going to save £30 a month. Nobody out there would do anything other than praise me for being sensible. And why should taxi drivers be any different. Why should the drivers pay out more than they need to?

And then it comes down to the bottom line. This isn’t even really about the costs. It’s about drivers being told what to do. The RPHDA aren’t thinking about the customers here who pay our wages. Most taxi drivers don’t. Most see the customer as an irrelevance, interrupting their time.

For some taxi drivers, the customer service is none existent. The cars are filthy. The want the customer to conform to the way THEY want to drive them – as opposed to providing a customer focused service.

The only people that make the best of this situation is the one who makes the best of it and put the customer first. Not themselves.

Those that can’t will get out of the industry. There might not be many drivers left this time next year.

One way or the other this isn’t going to end pretty.

Secret Taxi Driver

83 thoughts on “One way or the other this isn’t going to end pretty

  1. In Rotherham there is a special case for CCTV for obvious reasons but also to prevent people fooling the tax payer – just a “spy in the cab”… VEHICLE [and driver] TRACKING SYSTEM.
    Unfortunately many people come to this country to TAKE, and play by their (foreign) rules.
    people falsely claim hours to get benefits…
    Taxi are cheaper than the bus (2 people+)
    Maybe the council could negotiate a bulk rate for CCTV and maybe offer low interest loans?

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    • The council do have access to low interest funding but this might be for infrastructure purposes.

      If the council could bulk buy and offer low interest loans it certainly puts the boot back onto RPHDA and gives them less of a reason to strike and protest.

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      • Why not go the full hog, get the council to pay for all the Solictors your lot are going to need, even though your’ll be claiming your below the threshold. Hey the council could pay for your MOT’s too.

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  2. They keep complaining about the costs, but what about to the costs to the victims of CSE , their families. What about the costs to the poor old decent Rotherham citizen, the cost of revamp the council services, from Child Protection to Licenseing. What about the millions being spent by the Police, NCA investigating these crimes, the potential costs of the town being sued, by victims and their families of CSE. The costs of the court cases, the only people rubbing their hands with glee are all those, soon to be rich leeches(Solicitors), who will be making loads of dosh. What about the cost of inward investment, what company in there right mind would want to be associated with a town with some 300 rapists/child abusers running around and some 1400+ victims. And what about the cost to the towns reputation, will it ever be known other than the town where white, innocent, underage children (girls) were rape on an industrial scale by groups of Pakistani Taxi drivers.

    Think about the damage you’ve done and count yourself lucky that there only asking for CCTV, personally I wouldn’t step into a taxi, even with a barge pole, especially if I was white and a young girl.

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      • What’s the difference, you rape, abuse and treat women , even your own as beneath your men. Don’t pay taxes, claim benefits your not entitled to. A criminal is still a criminal, although most draw the line with school girls.

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      • I wondered how long it take some faceless Internet warrior to personally accuse me of abusing young girls. You stick to your sweeping generalisations and i’ll stick to facts and my clear conscience pal

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    • Mr anonymous u wouldn’t get in a taxi with a barge pole I don’t think no body would pick u up with a barge pole u lucky u gettin a taxi service when it was all majority of white drivers workin u used to be in bed at 9.00 with ya dummy in ya mouth because no taxi drivers were workin at weekend now the taxi service running 24 hours 365 days a year so don’t talk crap

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      • Yes most of the decent drivers may have been call it a day early, but I wonder what most of the other drivers were doing, certainly not picking up customers, unless they were children who they were raping and taking around to a relative .

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  3. Long winded talk into nothingness. . . put up or shut up is what the general public have to say and don’t think you can fool any of us into thinking otherwise.
    You might have some old granny sat in the back of your car agreeing to all your aggressive talk of being the victims and bleating on about expenses and how you don’t/won’t be paying for the CCTV… Get real and accept it and start adjusting your budgets..You just saved £30 on your fuel bills… what a joke..
    There’s too many Taxis anyway in this town anyway… Just get rid of the peados and criminals driving the general public around and that might be a start.

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    • I’ve just saved £30 a month on my fuel bills but that doesn’t mean to say the rest of the 1200 taxi drivers across the borough have.

      Meanwhile read my article properly and you’ll see I will be paying for my CCTV. But most drivers won’t. So if you think there are too many of us right now then this next year you might just get that wish.

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      • Council hasn’t got time to do the paper work of the taxi drivers never mind ring taxi drivers u go to collect a plate u got to wait 45 min that’s Hw quick they are ashame on the Rotherham licenceing department

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  4. It is a disproportionate invasion of individuals’ privacy to constantly record the images and conversations of taxi drivers and their passengers, the UK’s data protection watchdog has said.
    The Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) said images within taxis should only be recorded where it is “clearly justifiable” to do so, and added that it would be rare for it to be acceptable to make audio recordings in the vehicles.
    “The Data Protection Act states that organisations can only collect personal data when it is fair and lawful to do so,” the ICO said. “For CCTV equipment in taxis, the ICO advises that images should only be recorded where it is clearly justifiable. Audio recordings should only be made on very rare occasions, for example where there are a high number of serious incidents and where recording is triggered due to a specific threat in a taxi cab.”
    The ICO considered that the recording systems had resulted in the unlawful processing of both personal data and sensitive personal data. The Data Protection Act requires organisations to take particular care when processing sensitive personal data, which can include information about individuals’ political opinions, religious beliefs, physical or mental health or condition or sex life, among other examples.
    out-law.com/en/articles/2012/july/councils-policy-on-audiovisual-recordings-in-taxis-breaches-data-protection-laws-ico-rules-/

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    • I think your wrong, buses, trains and other public services all have CCTV with audio and to my knowledge have not contravene any laws. Somehow I think Commissioner Ney and even the dumb Rotherham council officials, would have gone over this with a fine toothbrush,since they would know this was the centre piece of their plans for improving Rotherham.

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    • And given it probably didn’t take you very long to find that Colin, you have to ask why Rotherham Council haven’t gone about implementing this in the right way where it’s legal and watertight.

      A question if anyone can answer. Don’t Stagecoach now runs buses between Sheffield, Chesterfield and Matlock that have CCTV with audio recording? I thought I saw it advertised on the side of the bus that it did as I dropped in Sheffield a few days ago. If they do and that’s legal than it must be legal in taxis.

      The whole situation is a farce.

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      • Stagecoach have been running CCTV with audio, in their buses for ages as other Bus operators have. One of the reasons was to prevent fraudulent claims of accidents and fake injuries. Hey your lot Secret Taxi Driver are good at claiming something for nothing!.

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  5. I’m with you on this one Anonymous. This “Secret Taxi Driver” is running scared just like his colleagues and clutching at anything he can to survive. HGV drivers face stringent random checks on their hours and vehicles and they all have to have digital tachographs fitted. You Pakistani taxi drivers have got away with it for to long now you are being brought to task and made to toe the line. Thank God for that. As for a lot of taxi drivers leaving the trade Tough!
    If they can’t afford to do the job right get out.

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    • Don’t you get the sense it’s not the implications of CSE, why these drivers are running scared, it’s the financial aspect, or in there case, non payment of taxes due which have got there knickers in a twist. imagine whereas everybody else has been paying there taxes with gritted teeth and complaining of services getting worse year on year. These lot have been living the life of Riley or Mo give me , give me, give me something for nothing.

      These lot have been stashing there money and investing it in houses, or shit holes, with minimum of facilities, screwing the public by renting them out at ridiculous prices, then claiming there only earning a pittance and claiming tax benefits, while breeding like wild flowers. If they lived in China, the authorites over there would’ve had them castrated.

      It’s always me me me with them!!!

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      • Very well said mate.
        You mirpuris need to get a grip and accept you have a problem. Only then we can move on with our lives in this diverse community.
        listen people these dudes are not pakistanis they come from very remote and backwards villages in the disputed regions of pakistan – namely KASHMIR. These vermins were poorly educated if not completely illiterate. Mainstream pakistan dont want anything to do with the JATT (chaudry) clan of disputed Kashmir. You mirpuris have really ruined our respect. Our pakistani forefathers fought in the second world war with the then british empire in the name of freedom – in recognition of our forefathers bravery and ressilience -we were invited to great britain to help rebuild this country by order of the royal family.our forefathers worked hard helping to rebuild this country. Our elders were highly respected for there bravery and courage by the host country (united kingdom) for there hard working nature.
        You mirpuris 99.9% of you are asylum seekers i.e fell off a banana boat so to speak! You have no respect for different cultures, religion or race. I as a pakistani am ashamed of how you guys are trying to save face and act all innocent. Own up you have a problem and lets deal with it lawfully. Otherwise you mirpuris are building hatred within our communities and as such we could be all subject to racial abuse or even attacks.
        Let me add i am british born with pakistani heritage from the province of punjab – and lets face it you guys have screwed so much money from the uk from immoral earnings and proceeds of crime – you guys believe that you are untouchable bringing your beauracratic mirpuri politics to this country.
        Councillor ali is uncle of a rotherham drug dealer who was sentenced to 22 years prison for importing class A drugs into the u.k. SERIOUS AND ORGANISED CRIMES OFFICE NAILED THE DRUG DEALER! The immediate family of the drug dealer live a lavish lifestyle on KINGSWAY moorgate at the misery of the residents of rotherham.

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        • Your an idiot! Your expecting other groups to take responsibility for crimes you don’t know that they have commited all the while absolving your own community of those crimes. Hypocrisy 101! Your a big fat idiot!

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      • Actually the previous contributed comments, by Secret Pakistani, are spot in. There do seem to be a certain section of the Pakistani community, which sees it role as not in cohension with other communities, but somewhat detached and while pretending to be part of the local populas, is always looking to exploit others, for there own devious ends.

        I am part of the ethnic communtiy, something I am beginning to relish with shame. I have always lived my life in a multi cultural environment and until this scandal broke and the extent of this wanted criminality was exposed, l’ve always felt welcome. Not now though.

        Perhaps because you’ve lived in your backward, inbreeding, something you call a community, you haven’t or maybe would never understand the damage you’ve done to the Muslim/Pakistani culture. Where the vast majority of people see them as morally defunct but also rapeist and abusers.

        What you have done, is hid under the cloak of discrimination, and committed, the most horrendous of crimes unimaginable. You’ve only been allow to get away with these crimes, because of the supine gutless white people, whom you fool easily in order to Committ your hate.

        I doubt, whatever rules or regulations are introduced now, will truly repair the hurt and suffering you have cause, but what goes round, comes round.

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        • Your an idiot! Your expecting other groups to take responsibility for crimes you don’t know that they have commited all the while absolving your own community of those crimes. Hypocrisy 101! Your a big fat idiot!

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    • Last time I checked Rotherham had over 1200 registered taxi drivers and not all were Pakistani.

      Getting your facts wrong again Mr Rotherman?

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  6. Your right Honey Badger, people are ashamed of Rotherham Licensing Dept, for allowing so many Child abusers, Rapeist , thugs, tax dodgers, benefit claimers and people who have lived in this country for decades and still can’t master it’s language to masquerade as public servants under the guise of Taxi drivers.

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  7. £7.00 per week. If it was £100.00 per week the general public might, I say might have some sympathy. Otherwise not. Ordinarily this farcical revolt would have received national media coverage given the background. However there has only been some neutral coverage from Look North surprise, surprise and nothing nationally. Editors would know it would provoke national outrage at the gall of these people and has therefore like much else been buried.

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  8. Can I just comment, that the blog left by secret Pakistani is correct 100%. Might be hard to swallow for the mirpuri community, but unfortunately it’s true. Don’t get me wrong I don’t like to brand everyone with the same brush, because they will be doctors, lawyers, teachers, etc from this community, however this is a small percentage. Majority of the taxi drivers are mirpuri, and when things go well for this community, they like to brandish the “Azad Kashmir” slogan but when the negative spotlight is on, they are Pakistan, suprise, suprise! Like secret Pakistani commented, don’t get the real Pakistani community confused with this lot, but in their eyes we are all Brown and all the same, so I can see where the white British people are comming from. cllr akhtar and cllr Ali, have filled their families, and extended families pockets for a long time,their mirpuri politics are comming to an end, just a shame that ordinary British people with Pakistani heritage like myself get caught up in their mess. Well done guys, keep up the mirpuri hard work. Azad Kashmir!

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    • Your an idiot! Your expecting other groups to take responsibility for crimes you don’t know that they have commited all the while absolving your own community of those crimes. Hypocrisy 101! Your a big fat idiot!

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  9. Secret Pakistani, how brave to make such a statement which I certainly believe to be true. Would you please write your thought down and send them to the Prime Minister and try to open his eyes to what these people are doing. They infect and infest our country with their primitive ways and culture and insist on inflicting it on us, using the race laws to force us accept it. I had dealings with these people throughout my working life and I ALWAYS found them to be dishonest, corrupt, extremely tribal and extremely racist, refusing to integrate into our society. They and their culture are evil and it should be eradicated from our society by whatever means are necessary. If this means deportation of whole families, including those born here, then so be it.
    I for one am sick of being held to ransom by these people, they take our tax money, giving very little in return, and abuse us and our society.

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  10. Its makes me laugh how the Pakistani community is blaming mirpuri instead of looking inwards to the whole community…If half of what we are led to believe is true…well then shame on the rest of you for letting them get away with it and allowing the atrocities committed in this town to continue.

    gutless spineless rats the lot of you…its funny watching you all trying to evacuate the sinking ship you have all been happily sailing on for the last 2 decades .

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    • In response to the above anonymous individual whom I seemed to have amused – how ill informed are you or is it just plain ignorance?

      For the last two decades you are referring to I can confirm I have sent endless letters in confidence to superintendents, senior command teams at South Yorkshire police, senior council officials all to no avail. Why didn’t anyone take any notice? Maybe the mirpuri councillors white counterparts were too much up each other’s back sides they just didn’t want to know or simply didn’t care what was going on with the most vulnerable in our society. Maybe they thought they not worth it just because most of these girls are picked up from dis functional families.

      I’m not endorsing what the mirpuris have done, but I do blame the council, the police and any other influential person of rotherham for there failings in bringing these scums to justice. I currently don’t have much faith in the justice system, and believe most of the accused and perhaps even charged individuals won’t be actually convicted of the alleged offences.

      With regards to letting these people commit these atrocities and getting away with it – I can only blame the senior command team at South Yorkshire police, and the management at R.M.B.C who were fully aware of the situation but failed to act upon it.

      Let’s hope the commissioners do a better job and lead the way to a prosperous future for rotherham.

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      • Ex-Councillor mahroof you have NO MORALS – why did your cousin get multiple stab wounds in his butchers shop from his own employee?(because he couldnt keep it in his pants) why did moofys other cousin get killed in a subsequent stabbing in the same shop……. because he too was a pervert who preyed on vulnerable girls. All in the name of community cohesion!

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      • We have to find these culprits guilty beyond reasonable doubt in the presence of a jury in a court setting. Which is going to prove very challenging.
        The casey and jay report simply take into account of the victims statements, and as such there report is based on the probability of the crimes reported. The reports identified systematic failings in the local authority –

        however to secure a conviction in the court of law the jury must find the accused guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Lets be honest these crimes that have been brought to light are historic, and no doubt evidence would have been misplaced.. lost… stolen or simply just not available or even permissable in front of his or her honourable judge. So it would be victims word against the accused. Please correct me if the law has changed.

        We need to unite pakistanis or no pakistanis, white or black against this revolting attitude towards those whom are vulnerable in our society – to gain the trust of other communities we need to step up and accept our community leaders have misrepresented us, failed to recognise that there is a problem within the mirpuri clan – and to comply with any reasonable request to better our taxi service as recently been approved by the cabinet.

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      • Secret Pakistani. I didn’t find it amusing what you said, if you have written to the senior police and senior council officers, then I applaud you but all directions come from the top. I meant it when I asked you to write to the Prime Minister because only he can persuade parliament to take positive action on these matters and don’t forget, the police can only act under the guidance of the Home Office and as for RMBC, that’s another matter!

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      • Secret pakistani,I read some of your comments in which you said mainstream pakistanis dont want anything to do with mirpuri jatts(chaudarys).Not every Mirpuri is a jatt.There are jatts amongst punjabis too.The town where i live most Mirpuris are from bains rajput clan.Are there any real punjabis in rotherham.

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  11. To the last anonymous blogger. How I’m I to know what goes on in the community, contrary to popular belief, we the Pakistani community are a minority within a minority. Do you know what happens in your community? Do you condemn the constant paedophiles who get convicted of offences in the white British community? Why do you turn a blind eye to these paedophiles? Because just like me, you don’t know what happens in the rest of the community. We don’t live in each others pockets! I work, come home and look after my family, like all law abiding citizens. What happens in these hollows where the deprived paedophiles live and do I have no idea about.
    It’s all good pointing the finger at the Pakistani community but it’s not the Pakistani community which committed these offences. All of the convicted paedophiles who have appeared in the news are all mirpuri. The majority of the asain community in Rotherham is mirpuri, so all I’m doing is pointing out the facts, whilst you are too busy making general sweeping comments on a topic which you probably have very little understanding on.

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    • Totally agree that one can not make everything about ones communtiy, however blameing a certain sect, within a communtiy or generalising, that a certain problem, paedophiles are common with society, will not adsorb your community of your responiability to all of the communtiy, regardless of Religion, Creed or sex.

      The fact is, there were certain peoples within. Your communtiy leaders, imams, councillors, MP’s and others , who knew exactly what was going on and did nothing to stop it. This was because irrespective of what sect you came from, your community view a child, from another race, as inconsequential and therefore “Easy White Meat”. The Koran preaches that certain peoples can be treated as slaves.

      If this was an isolated incident of maybe comparable to the general levels of child abuse, within society, that would be bad enough. But it was over 1400+ in a small town, over decades, and it was widespread around the country. Sorry something is very wrong with you Pakistani and it’s time you fess up to your inadequacies as human beings.

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      • As you guys have made your mind up about the pakistani community – it seems pointless in trying to educate you in the history of how the community is actually made up of. It is divided into casts and tribes, and RMBC was blessed with a bunch of mongrals from the same tribe imported from mirpur into eastwood and masbrough trying to represent the whole community – what a sham! And how naive has the local authority proved to have been in this regard.

        With regards to your quote from the koran – i urge you to read it in the full context and not just an extract- the koran does NOT endorse such crimes towards different races or any human. Regarding the wording ‘slave’ is referring to ones marital partner.

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    • Up the Millers, we don’t turn a blind eye to the paedophiles in the white British community and we do condemn them. This is the problem we, the white population cannot understand. We investigate, we identify, we charge and we convict these people and even within the white criminal fraternity, this type of crime is NEVER tolerated. The paedophiles are given up to the authorities by the white community to be dealt with. These sexual crimes in Rotherham have been covered up by the perpetrators own community and politicians of the same ethnicity.

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  12. re secret pakistani , police told the community the stabbing was because the man got the sack did the police tell lies?

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      • @Secret Pakistani , I must admit your one of a few from your community, who have actually admitted that something has been done wrong and like most people, I was unaware of the tribal system in your race.

        Irrespective of your differences, and obviously your cultrual heritage is very important to your communtiy , as to others, the rape of children is an obscenity which reasonable adults would’ve been appalled at. until your communtiy embraces these changes to the Taxi industry and more importantly, root out these criminals from within your ranks, the general public are not going to believe you have change. To denie that you have a problem, is to denie yourself a cure!!!

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  13. Lets get this into perspective as to why theses changes have been applied it is supposed to STOP any more sexual exploitation i do not doubt there are stlll drivers who know something but deny it just as there are coincillors who STILL deny anything happened. All of you should think of the trauma the victims suffered especially the vile lowlife that used their taxi business to carry out this action so you should shut up or put up and try and show the rotherham people you are regretting what was going on accept you need to have cctv in your cab for the safety of the public mainly women and young girls

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    • Ref : fiferalfa – u right wat u saying but the council want cameras in that record when u switch ur ignition on which when they not workin why should the cameras record when the vehicle is being used for there private use so where’s there privacy gone when they hav there kids and familie in the car if u can’t take picture of your own kids in the leisure centres when they swimin that’s a public place so why should u hav recording of ur own kids when they in there own car and plus hav council and police being noisy of your private life they only issue there taxi badges to work in taxi industry

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      • I find it very unlikely that the perpetrators of these crimes kept the meter running while they were transporting and abusing children. There would be no point in having cctv unless it was on all the time. For the taxi drivers who are innocent of any wrong doing, then yes it intrudes on your privacy and will be annoying but you’ve only got the guilty ones to blame for this. You can’t blame the commissioners for wanting to protect the public, especially children when using taxis.
        I have to work under constant cctv surveillance and I don’t care one bit as I’ve got nothing to hide and it strikes me as the vast majority of taxi drivers feel the same way due to the small percentage of taxi drivers that took part in the ludicrous go slow around town and subsequent protests. Do you not think that the police (and it’s about time) or other interested parties won’t be taking a keen interest in these protesters as they’re making a huge issue about it when everyone else is happy to go along with it.
        As for intruding on your personal privacy, do you really think the powers that be are particularly interested in you and your family having a normal conversation? It will be totally disregarded. It’s not there to watch your every move, it’s there so if someone makes an accusation then it can be corroborated. It will also be used to see if the money taxi drivers are declaring matches with the actual fares that have been received. I think this is the main reason for the protest, even above the CSE.

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      • You have raised an important issue that needs to be understood. A registered taxi can not be used for any other purpose. For starters it would not be insured.

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  14. If your not happy about the CCTV you should blame the monsters who used and abused the Taxi industry to commit crimes. . . The ones that are still guilty and continue to ply trade are just destroying decent honest genuine taxi drivers lives.
    we see these clips on the internet from far off lands of whole villages beating up rapists and thieves,Stoning them to death on the streets en mass,judge ,jury and executioners.
    Yet we don’t see none of the Asian community getting together and ganging up on these deviants of the devil and sorting them out…they should have been ran out of town with their whole families following them back to wherever they came from.
    But you blame Casts,tribes,clans,blah blah and then the Police,the council and anyone and everyone except yourselves..?
    But most of you were too busy creaming off the system yourselves and taking advantage of having a cousin/mate of a mate in every department of office in town..Plenty of nice big daft house extensions, multiple businesses , rental incomes and Property portfolios to go with the Flash cars.

    The Truth cannot Be Denied.

    The Truth Will Out.

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  15. well now we have a insight into how certain pakistani people behave , ie clans etc maybe that why councillor ali has always called himself a pillow of the community or something like that .

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  16. The two Pakistani contributions, Secret Pakistani and Up the Millers are both honest and accurate. I think they deserve more respect than some have given them,

    As a white British who has lived happily in mixed communities and made a little effort to understand our fellow Brits of differing ethnicity and colour there is plenty on the internet to help understand the differing cultures and histories of the the Mirpuri, who associate with being from Azad Kashmir, and those who see themselves of Pakistani origin.

    A bit of googling will reveal that a number of analysts and commentators, white and Mirpuri, acknowledge that Mirpuri are the group most associated with street grooming.

    They are also the in many ways the most confusing and splintered in terms of their relationship with the UK, the elders at least being most likely to hang on to contacts, culture and attitudes from back home.

    Mary B.

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    • I thought we lived in BRITAIN. I have for 72 years!! I don’t want to live in a multi-cultural society and I have NEVER been asked if I want to. When in Britain, do as the British!!!!

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      • You don’t want to live in a multi-cultural society but you want to live in Britain. Go back 200 or so years and ask the people of the countries that Britain invaded and took over if they wanted the British ruling them?

        People are people. Makes no different where they are born, where they come from or where they die. Stop being so narrow minded.

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  17. We are drifting off the issue hear somewhat, everyone on this site knows the real reason for not wanting CCTV in the taxis is purely and simply because they don’t want anyone to know how much they earn and how many hours they work. Forget about CSE they couldn’t care less all that matters to them is protecting their benefit scams. Simple!

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  18. It all depends on your insurance policy. If you’re a registered taxi driver then you’ve also got to be insured for personal use as well. Any other drivers of a registered taxi have also got to be registered taxi drivers (no unregistered family members) or your insurance is null and void. This also goes for non declaration of any criminal record held by drivers which also leaves them liable for prosecution. One small point. Having a CCTV system installed in a taxi can knock up to £500 a year off insurance premiums. As this is more than the £7 a week for the CCTV system, then the cost is no longer an issue. So what’s the real reason?

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  19. The reason is Taxman…… They don’t want anyone to know anything about their earnings or hours so they can keep scaming the system. Simple.

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  20. Rotherman said it earlier. The obvious reason for not wanting CCTV is a financial one. Taxi drivers will have to declare all their earnings. It will be interesting to see if when after CCTV is installed, how many drivers earnings miraculously go up from £200 a week to £500 as they won’t be able to hide it anymore. Taxi drivers who already pay their way will be vindicated and can carry on as before with nothing to hide. Let’s see the ones who’s wages jump a mile explain that away. They should be investigated for tax evasion, we can always hope.
    To be honest, any taxi driver only making £200 a week must be only working 2 days a week or are we to believe they only make £30 -40 a day? What’s this, about 8 fares? They must think we’re stupid? Oh right, they do.

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    • At the same time it will put a stop to the multiple drivers scam and prevent these non licenced drivers or worse, those whose licences have or may soon be revoked, from driving a taxi about all using one ID. If it doesn’t do that as well, it will have been a waste of time? Well done Commissioner Ney!

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    • The days of making £100 a day are long gone in Rotherham.

      Two years ago that was the case. It’s not anymore.

      Whether it’s the recession or the CSE scandal or a combination or whatever, the days of making £100 a day after costs are a pipe dream now.

      When I have the CCTV installed it’ll show me parked up sat in my car sighing at some of the narrow minded comments on here and getting bored of listening to the same old adverts on Talk Sport.

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  21. After all the excuses from certain taxi drivers regarding CCTV and the new licensing rules, I’d love to hear what their suggestions are.

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    • Ref :taxman
      There is no exuse of wat the suggestion are the truth is the the council and the police didn’t do there job right and now they haven’t got anybody else to blame apart from the taxi drivers not all the taxi driver are the same same as the doctors or the mp’s that commit these kind of crime so that means all of them are the same this is a joke ashame on u all

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      • You’re right, the police and council didn’t do their jobs. It amounted to a cover up. But if certain taxi drivers hadn’t been abusing children then there would have been nothing to cover up. I know very well it wasn’t all taxi drivers, I’m not a fool, but you and many others don’t seem able to admit that any ANY taxi drivers were behind the rape and trafficking of children.

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  22. When I wrote the original post, I did not expect for one second that it would generate this many replies. Some debate can be healthy but this has also been an excuse for some people to get across a lot of narrow minded views about the whole affair.

    I wish the council now would stop dithering and let us drivers who are actually prepared to put the CCTV in straightaway, what we have to do. Last I have heard is that 5 different companies have put in bids to be the preferred companies to supply and fit the CCTV and that the council will pick 2 out of 5. I don’t know anything about which companies have bid and what the official costs are going to be.

    One of my colleagues from the firm I work for went down to Riverside House yesterday and asked to speak to licensing and he was told what I stated in the above paragraph. He was also told that the council do expect a lot of drivers to hand their badges back in with these new regulations. I’ve always thought that was the case anyway, this was a roundabout way to bring down the numbers of drivers. That’s why the drivers wanted to go on strike. One driver may have a different reason to go on strike than another but the underlying reason is that for those who had nothing to do with CSE, they feel the council is going to shaft them to protect the public.

    I completely agree. Public safety must be paramount. Hence i’ve never had an issue with CCTV. The tax issue isn’t an issue for me either as I pay mine. I don’t have to suddenly go out and get a new car either but if I did I may have been minded to vote for the strike too as it’s a cost issue.

    I’m going to leave it at that. No matter what I say, for most of you on here i’m guilty by association. I tried to state some facts in the original piece about what was going to happen and how drivers were feeling. There’s no sympathy for us – any of us, guilty or innocent and certainly some of you can’t even distinguish one from the other here. And especially for those who can’t do that, I leave you with this….

    Watch “BRITAIN FIRST CONFRONTS ROTHERHAM TAXI DRIVERS” on YouTube

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    • I can fully understand that you think people feel you’re guilty by association just due to the fact that you’re a taxi driver but I assure you it’s not the case. I’m a white British man and am not, nor ever have been racially prejudiced. These morons from Britain First cause as much damage to the British white race as they do to anyone else who lives here, as we are perceived to also be guilty by association just due to being white. I’ve read the comments on Rothpol and can spot racism from a mile away as I’m sure you can and they irritate me to death as racism is completely pointless. No one can change their ethnicity so just get along eh?
      Let’s just say that if it was a majority of white taxi drivers who’d been identified as abusing children, the taxi service would still have been hit and the changes implemented would still be going ahead, so this is where race is not an issue. It just happens to have been Asian taxi drivers but the result is still the same. It’s the cover up from Councillor’s and the Police and all-round denial that’s compounded all this. If the perpetrators of these crimes had originally been arrested and dealt with at the time when they were supposed to have been, race would never have been such a big issue and we wouldn’t have the likes of Britain First and the completely brain-dead EDL coming to Rotherham.
      If the police now do their jobs and apprehend the right people it will leave everyone else to get on with their lives. The victims should hopefully get some closure, taxi drivers will be able to stop having a guilt complex and the public will feel comfortable getting in a taxi without some having to take photos of the car before they get in and recording conversations (yes, it does happen).
      Get your CCTV installed and bide your time and eventually it will all get back to normal.
      Good Luck. Taxman.

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  23. Taxman, it’s simple what their suggestions would be. Firstly, “You are only picking on us because we are Asian”, then it’s “Leave us alone to continue raping your children, transporting them round the country for sexual purposes, abusing the tax system so that we can continue evading tax, buying up multiple properties so we can abuse our tenants and just leave us alone so we can continue to put 2 fingers up to the rest of the population and keep our disgusting culture!!”
    Any other ideas?

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  24. 100% agree Anonymous. There has not been one racist or narrow minded remark on this yet secret taxi driver, secret pakistani ect. are all blaming one another which just proves the old saying “There is no Honour Amongst Thieves”! Anyway things could be looking for people wanting taxis in Rotherham, “Uber Cars” have started in Sheffield, every fare is payed on card or app so no cash changes hand. You get a price for the trip before the cab arrives and they are not allowed to accept tips plus they all have cctv.

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    • Ref : Rotherman
      For your information wat u putting out on here is false information I work for uber in Sheffield there’s no money exchange which is true with the driver and there’s no cctv cameras in my car so that not true wat u saying u making that up sending wrong message out and also they will be comin in Rotherham very soon but I don’t think there will be any drivers left in Rotherham with all this happening in Rotherham ubers customers aren’t local punters using taxi day in day out they business people working for blue chip company’s wats Rotherham going to bring work in for uber they will fail in Rotherham it’s a poor town with poor people majority of people in Rotherham haven’t got phones to down load an app for uber unless Rotherham council fund them with a latest phones to get uber work 🙂

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    • Wow. You must be reading a different article to me then. All I can is loads of narrow minded comments. I’ve had my eyes tested recently, so maybe it’s you Rotherman who needs to go to Specsavers??

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  25. I appologise Anonymous I was under the impression that there were cctv in Uber Cabs. As for your comment about poor people not having phones to download apps thy’re the one’s who allways seem to have an iphone in their hands. Plus it’s not for business users in Leeds they’re starting to overtake local taxi firms.

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    • Ref:rothman
      When people put this kind of information on here everybody just jumps on the bag wagon
      It wrongs with respect to uber in Leeds taking over Leeds a city Rotherham isn’t and wats happening to uber in France and Germany the struggling to keep it running it will happen here after some time people wouldn’t able to afford running the taxi so it will have to be income support let the state pay for them

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      • We can’t have the state supporting taxi drivers who don’t earn enough. Who can’t afford CCTV. Who can’t afford a new car. Otherwise you will have some readers and posters to this blog choking on their breakfast and reacting violently after drinking their daily umpteenth can of Stella….

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  26. Sad news today about potential job losses at the Tata steel plants – however armed with their redundancy pay i’d hope some of those workers come into the taxi industry where they will be used to the higher cost of operating a taxi from day one and with it bring a different positive outlook on service and standards benefitting passengers all round.

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    • I’m generalising. I’m doing it in jest obviously. I’m not stupid enough to know all people of a white ethnic background act the same.

      On the other hand certain people who post on here can’t distinguish between an honest taxi driver and a criminal.

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