All Results now in, click on links to view.
New Council
Labour 48, UKIP 14 Independent 1
Anston and Woodsetts
Boston Castle
Brinsworth and Catcliffe
Dinnington
Hellaby
Holderness
Hoober
Keppel
Maltby
Rawmarsh
Rother Vale
Rotherham East
Rotherham West
Silverwood
Sitwell
Swinton
Valley
Wales
Wath
Wickersley
Wingfield
Labour retain control of Rotherham Borough Council
VOTERS kept Labour in power at Rotherham Borough Council after an all-out election called after the party’s previous regime was severely criticised and control was taken over by Westminster.
Candidates sporting red rosettes won 48 of the 63 seats up for grabs in the town hall council chamber.
UKIP remains the borough’s main opposition with 14 councillors, while Clive Jepson regained his seat in the Anston and Woodsetts ward and the Tories were wiped out, with Mayor-elect Chris Middleton losing out.
Election 2016: Labour holds Rotherham and Sheffield councils
Labour has retained control of both Rotherham and Sheffield Councils.
The party took 48 of the 63 seats up for grabs in Rotherham in the first election since the authority was put under government control in 2015.
Meanwhile, in Sheffield, Labour has so far secured 56 of the 84 seats to give it an unassailable majority, with the Lib Dems taking 20 seats.
In Barnsley Labour took 19 of the 21 seats with the Barnsley Independent Group claiming the remaining two.
In Rotherham, UKIP gained two seats to take their total to 14, though group leader Caven Vines lost his seat in Rawmarsh.
Rotherham Politics 
Latest Vines, consigned by the electorate to the history books.
Feeling sorry Gavin Felton, don’t let it hurt you, your heart in the right place.
People still voted for Barry, what is the world coming to.
Congratulations to the rest of you, look on the bright side, you got in one way or another.
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Many thanks for your kind words. That’s life at least I tried
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“….at least I tried”
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“Try again. Fail again. Fail better.”
― Samuel Beckett
That”s life.
RR
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Gavin, onwards and upwards.
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I think this quote by Einstein “The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything”
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Just what will it take? People are obviously not doing any research whatsoever on past records. I’m absolutely appalled. I reckon if Shaun Wright had been put up as the candidate for labour he would have got back in. Blind voting, I vote labour cos my dad did.
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Barnsley Spectator, would sound like a good name for a blog to hold those in power in Barnsley to account. How about it?
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Hi Rothpol, I’m not sure if you’re kindly telling me to keep my beak out of Rotherham affairs or being serious. Either way I come on your site as a lot of the issues in Rotherham are mirrored in Barnsley – we share the same voter apathy, the same PCC and corrupt police force and almost identical faux socialist labour councillor goons voted in year after year (no changes in Barnsley with the latest council vote either.)
I would love to dedicate time to highlighting the same issues in my home time but unfortunately time is something I have a great deal of to do it justice besides which my writing is terrible it would be too easy to pick holes in should I come across an argument.
I will stop commenting but keep watching – keep holding people to account. Keep an eye on sir Steve he’s one of the slipperiest labour fish however is tactically very quiet.
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We welcome your comments from the Barnsley perspective and hope you won’t stop, Rik.
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Oh dear, that’ll be the Middleton that voted enthusiastically in favour of a f***ing huge Aldi sign at Bramley, in spite of dozens of residents objecting to the monstrosity.
And clearly the good people of Sitwell Ward also thought that he didn’t represent them either.
Goodbye and good riddance to him – very well deserved indeed.
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So it is quite acceptable that many of the councillors who attended the CSE Seminar in 2005 have been re- elected where according to Jay they were told exactly what was happening but they chose to do nothing, but we should put the flags out and cheer that a councillor who voted for a sign for a supermarket wasn’t re- elected!!! I have no words!,
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How many of Labour’s 48 councillors do you think were on the council in 2005? By my reckoning it’s 6.
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Whysall, Wyatt, Ellis and Atkin are four, who are the other two?
Welcome back.
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McNeely and Rushforth
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And Ann Russell makes 7.
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If it had been a Sainburys or Waitrose sign they wouldn’t have been any objections.
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Bye bye!
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Rotherham – a Rotten Borough and now a Lost Borough.
As the cockneys used to say “Who would Adam and Eve it ? ” ( they have been “replaced” of course , sorry , I meant to say that “the East End has been culturally enriched” )
Poor naive me for thinking that the idea of democracy is that if politicians have done wrong , they are to be elected out of office .
Perhaps the idea of democracy has been lost, in this Lost Borough.
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Reg I WILL NOT GIVE UP and many thanks for your support. Who knows what’s in the horizons? Another Scandal in Look North tonight?
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Labour voters have no right to complain about cover ups , corruption and denials by RMBC ever aagin. It hasn’t stopped and nor will it due to to the ignorant fools who’ve kept them in power. Your parents and grandparents may have voted Labour, but it was a different Labour to this disgrace to humanity. Do you honestly think they give a toss about the people in this town (excluding criminals and child abusers)? You’ll work it out one day unless you’re too stupid to. Well done. You should be proud.
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Well, there you have it….A chance for Rotherham’s concerned citizens to call to account the old guard condemned by Prof Jay and they threw it away….
The ‘old guard’ by the way, have the towns apathy in their favour and this gives them the gall to stand again without shame or embarrassment….
I often wondered why the public gallery in the Town Hall council meetings was more or less empty in the light of all that is happening in Rotherham Borough…Well it’s not rocket science is it… If it doens’t affect me I don’t care a rats a..e psychology….
A grandmothers advice to young people in that awful place called Rotherham is ” get up every day and go to school. Learn all you can and set yourself a high goal. Persevere and overcome the apathy of previous generations….Research other places on the planet you would like to live and at the first opportunity …. get out.! Emigrate…
Hope there are a few decent people who can help restore human dignity to used and abused young people to set high goals and reach them. For the rest I say ; in the immortal words of Johnny Cash… You can run on for a long time, run on for a long time, run on for a long time but sooner or later……….Other than that, I’m lost for words!
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千里之行，始於足下
(“A journey of a thousand miles is started with a single step” – Laozi)
I try not to be negative especially when it comes to political change. Old habits are hard to overcome but there does seem to be a beginning.
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Hi Poet M… Have I missed some encouraging sign of ‘hope’ here ?
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Am trying to plant seeds!
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For Poetmorgan…I get your drift….However , seeds need good soil to germinate …. I just tried planting some polyanthus in some old potting mix Morgan to save meself a few bob… The result is as you would expect. A very poor sickly show and not much colour…. Could you expect better results in the RMBC?
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The worst result would be just 3 or 4 “opposition” Councillors. That would be like no opposition at all. With 10 they can cause a bit of a nuisance especially as the ruling party are mostly lobotomised.
I wait for the full break down of the results. I suspect Labour are down across the board. Remember Sheffield once fell to an opposition unfortunately they were a worthless crew. I do not believe there is such a thing as a safe seat . With turnouts at about 30% with 3 or 4 parties contesting a seat it is possible to win with only about 10 percent of the total electorate. The old Liberal Party (not the Lib Dems) understood this 40 years ago. Currently the Greens and UKIP are beginning to grasp it as well.
So I am not totally pessimistic hence my quote from Classical China. However I do recognise that there is a long journey ahead.
Finally if Jayne Senior does not resign the whip within two years I will be disappointed in her and chuck her book in the bin.
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Actually seeds need little to germinate other than moisture; but they need a much more supportive environment to survive and make headway.
Just like our kids.
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What happens next year?
Do all these Councillors stay in place for the next 3 or more years?
When is our next Borough Councillor election.
(I have an interest in the politics of Long Ditton in Surrey – it’s within Elmbridge – and on the Elmbridge website I read:
“For each Ward, 3 Councillors are elected. The Candidate with the most votes will serve a term of 4 years, the Candidate with the second highest number of votes will serve a term of 3 years and the Candidate with the third highest number of votes will serve a term of 2 years.”)
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2020 when there will be another ‘all out’ election. Same day as General Election, that will benefit Labour.
How convenient!
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Oh yes, I’m sure Eric Pickles thought he’d help Labour out when he ordered yesterday’s all-out election.
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Rothpol – another conspiracy theorist ?
Soon he will be saying that Climate change is a myth.
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RR
Local elections across the country are a patchwork quilt. Some go every 4 years all at once. Some districts go by thirds over a four year cycle with the county council (if there is one) in the fourth year. Then you get two member ward in these that have a blank year or have parish councils in that year. Fortunately there is not too much that is rational about it. After all it is supposed to be LOCAL with local preferences about election cycles.
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Rothpol
In 2024 they will be out of sync.
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The people of Rotherham deserve everything they get words fail me !!!
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What a surprise. Labour again. As my dad used to say “paint a donkey red and it’ll get in”. However, the only literature I received through my door was from labour and Ukip. The only party that came to my house was labour and the only party outside the polling station in sunnyside was Ukip. Who got the majority of the vote in my ward, labour and Ukip. Why did nobody else make the effort. I guess publicity costs money and sadly the independent candidates were distinctly lacking.
What a sad state of affairs, a party that shamed it’s townsfolk and a party that shames everybody that’s not “indigenous”. Give me strength.
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Whereas over here it was different… The only literature I got was from two of the Independents and Labour… Nothing from the other Independent or any of the others standing (Dinnington Ward)…
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The Boy Blunder re-elected in Wales ward despite his numerous failings as APC chairman and as a publicly condemned councillor of the ‘Not Fit for Purpose’ group.
It is a great pity that elections were not ordered to be held within 3 months of Louise Casey’s report.
We might have seen completely different results.
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Worth noting that there will be a Parliamentary boundary review before the next election. With the intention being to reduce the number of seats from 650 to 600 and equalise the number of electors per constituency. This will involve a reduction of one or possibly two seats in South Yorkshire and residents will be able to make submissions to the Boundary Commission. Perhaps Rotherham will be shown to have more Parliamentary representation than can be justified.
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I almost chocked on my morning coffee reading the election results for Wath with councilor Alan Atkins winning by a mile….There must be 1639 voters in Wath who are ( to say the least) morally deficient…..Serious deviants under his watch held sway in Wath…. Perhaps Mr Atkins interest in pornography fudged his thinking somewhat in what is morally reprehensible and his ability to descern sex deviants living under his nose…
He is not even a closet porn addict. He celebrated his success with a porn night in his own home with friends. Women included….. ( I’d love to know if they were fellow councilors) Somebody might know and tell…..
I don’t usually comment on a persons looks but a short view of Mr Atkins chairing a council meeting 31st March 2016 makes amusing viewing…. A life size budda who doesn’t give the impression he’s the sharpest tack in the box…..To be re-elected with his pedigree left me with the feeling ‘ what the ….’
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I remember Ken Wyatt being present on that occasion, yes I was present too.
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Was it on betamax or VHS?
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Rik, what happened to your response to the question ‘who was there’.. I was about to commend you for putting your hand up.! I would love somebody to challenge me on this one but I suspect a great wall of silence. Too many p…..g in the same pot I suspect…..
One thing for sure Rik… People who ask uncomfortable questions don’t ever get elected. If they did the s…t would hit the fan in the Town Hall.
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Disappearance only temporary.
My partner Sue was also present, as was Ged Dempsey, Ged was asleep as I recall it!
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Ok… so you and your Sue was there …..Perhaps Ged either pretended to be asleep out of embarrassment or too drunk to stay awake maybe ….What was the response to a night of sleezy voyeurism by towns elite? Anyone, man or woman tell Mr Atkins what to do with his videos or did ya all just comply….Compliance = selective disgust at Rotherhams shame….
To be sure, the creeps who hurt these girls would have been tittilated and fueled by the same s..t viewed in Councillor Atkins house that night….
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Sue and I retired to the backroom and kitchen when our protestations were ignored. Ged was asleep, as in ‘asleep as a Lord’ or ‘Newt’ if you prefer!
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I like the ‘sleep as a Newt ‘version Rik.. Seemingly their favourite sleeping habitat is beneath a pile of compost….. In NZ our favourite compost is sheep and cow muck… It fits don’t you think…..
On second thoughts it apply’s to some Lords as well……
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Ist time user….My name is Linda Wheeler and you can depend on it that some people using this blog know exactly who I am…I am definitely not anonymous.
I choose to use my name to be accountable for my opinions …
I don’t have any regret giving Dave a little rark up for his cheeky response to a serious matter….
I don’t agree with you Dave had a ‘valid’ comment on the subject… Perhaps you could enlighten me what was valid about it if I have missed something.
I have no authority to tell anybody what to do but I do have the right to comment and will keep on using it unless I am prohibited by the editor for crossing the line of what is legal.
Your question ‘who did I vote for’… Well, had I the privilege of a vote it wouldn’t have been for Councilor Atkins or anyone Prof Jay claims are unfit for purpose…..
I am as astounded as you are that only 33% of Rotherham citizens did vote….
I have tried to answer your questions… Please try to answer mine… What is it about my dismay that Alan Atkins was re=elected ( for reasons given) or my concern with the shame of the CSE that bothers you…..?
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We appear to have jumped threads …. but never mind ….@ Linda Wheeler ” I have tried to answer your questions… Please try to answer mine… What is it about my dismay that Alan Atkins was re=elected ( for reasons given) or my concern with the shame of the CSE that bothers you…..? “….nothing about your comment bothers me .. has I said I happen to agree with your comments and often do… you speak a lot of sense ..but please don’t try telling other people how or what is acceptable to comment.. that’s Riks job .. agree or disagree yes but people must be allowed to comment as they wish … maybe it was creepy Daves attempt at sarcasm …. who knows ? …. any way don’t take offence at anything I have said Linda you contribute some good stuff on here … maybe I am a little envious of you living in NZ ..wish I had the chance …
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For Anonymous creepy Dave…. Unless you put your name to your schoolboy comment. Stay out of the play… Discussions on the subject of who and what kind of people represent the people of Rotherham are for big boys and girls.!
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It’s ok watching the play from NZ and throwing your comments in ? …try living here .
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@ 1st time user…. Seems I’ve rattled your cage by raising the subject of a re-elected council member who likes porn and takes it upon himself to entertain others whether they like it or not…. Why is this important? It is very important because under his watch children were brutalized and any thinking person would need to ask whether they (children and families) would feel comfortable raising the matter with an old perv who gets off on sleeze.
Insidently my home town was Rotherham and I have an interest injustice for victims whether in NZ, Rotherham or Timbuktoo.
I also inform myself by viewing webcasts of Council meetings …..If the public gallery is anything to go by , it may be I could be more informed than many citizens of that town.
Your comment causes me to wonder why you are so indignant with my right to be involved in this blog…. The editor has not censored me so therefore I take it I have crossed no line and free to continue.
As a matter of interest (anonymous 1st time user) what is your complaint.? That I ‘out’ a dirty old man or my concern for 1400 brutalized children in a town I once loved and called… Think about it…..
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Wow … it looks like I am the one that has rattled a cage … from a mere 14 words I received such a detailed response .. I never said you have no right to be involved in/on this blog .. I was simply making the point that you think you have some sort of authority that gives you the right to tell some one to stay out of the play for not putting a name to a school boy comment .. he did put a name it was Dave ..I notice you say that I am anonymous 1st time user ..well you are equally anonymous Linda Wheeler on these pages as we only have your word that you are indeed Linda Wheeler… you might as well be John Smith for all we care and when you say…. “Discussions on the subject of who and what kind of people represent the people of Rotherham are for big boys and girls.!” …..Who did you recently vote for ? yep thought so… you were not eligible to vote were you ? ..you see even though you maybe a big boy or girl (we only have your word) you don’t get to say what kind of a person gets to represent Rotherham do you ….but yes you have a right to discuss it and comment as you see fit as does every other person on here . Now don’t get me wrong John Smith… I like a lot of your comments ..and actually agree with them but you cannot tell some one that their comment is not valid because of anonymity on here because we are all anonymous.. All the best Simon …. or is it Lisa .
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How awful is life in NZ then?
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Dave….Actually you are not Dave at all are you…. I believe I know who you are and whose bullets you are firing … Not making a very good job of it ‘Dave’ but I give points for your loyalty … You are a scrapper to be sure but insults are not arguments and everyone will get tired of you and me going toe to toe and taking up valuable space on this blog… Here endeth the lesson ‘Dave’
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PS…Just in case Mr Atkins views Rothpol comments… May I attempt to dampen his elation a little by explaining to him what voyeurism is. The old fashioned definition is ‘ peeping toms’… Men/women who give you the creeps because they like to spy on private activity. I think they once went to jail for it…Now you can be a peeping tom for free with a little help from the internet….It has become so sanitized that now you can even become a town councilor.
Hopefully tonight he might choose something a little different by way of celebration for himself and his cronies . I somehow doubt it…..
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I feel sorry for you. Though I’m not even British, I updated the results for the 2015 election Wikipedia page. I noticed, back then, how well Labour recovered from 2014. To think they could lose this year was naive. People aren’t led by reason; if ever, they’re given the wrong premises.
So here’s our world: Elections are useless. The media lie day in day out. Know the truth, you know there is a code of silence… is it the Soviet Union of the Races? The great utopia that isn’t? The same pattern happens in the whole Western block that won WWII against Hitlerism. As if capitalism combined with antifascism had begot regimes directed against their own people, who are suspected of thinking for themselves.
It will take years for people to understand that, and more so to end the tyranny.
Many thanks to this blog’s administration.
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Noticed some odd voting Patterns. One would expect that if a person votes labour for one candidate, then you would expect them to vote for the other two candidates as well. This does not seem to have happened.( same applies to UKIP candidates as well) A good example of this is Sue Ellis, 400 labour voters voted for her, then did not vote for Hoddinot/Read. ( notice her popularity compared againt the other two)
Darren Hughes lost, this is becoming a habit, first as a Tory, he lost the seat for Labour (1) then he lost the seat in Anston for Labour (2) and now he has lost the seat for Labour in Thurcroft (3) this must be a record.
It will be interesting to see who UKIP appoint as “Town Hall” Leader, its got to be someone with a bit of Umph, who can get them working in a cohesive group. Regardless of Political Party, Rotherham needs an effective opposition. UKIP are clearly snapping at the heels of Labour.
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Thanks for the honest reply Rik… Perhaps one of Mr Atkins friends ( or enemies) may forward my comments to Mr Atkin to let him know that not everybody is ignorant of his mask of hypocrisy and if I have my way the more who know what a porn addict he is the better…..I hope he doesn’t sleep well knowing his ‘cover’ has been BLOWN and young women and ‘ladies’ give him a wide berth when they see him in the street.
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Well the people of Rotherham reelected Labour, it would seem the people of Rotherham have not learned from the CSE scandal and have everything they get coming to them. Stick a red rosette on a paedo protecting antisemiteic donkey in Rotherham and the people still reelect it because “me dad voted Labour”, shameful!
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To Robin Symonds 1@ who was there in 2005 is still one to many they are still in denial and the next thing will be the COUNCIL going bankrupt what then half a billion debts 29 million pounds paid in interest every year 60 year repayment terms some of this debt is historical ie WRRCC if the banks call the debt in this council are dead and buried and according to the terms 1 weeks notice is all the banks need to give
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Weren’t there any of the current UKIP councillors on the council in 2005? What about serving police officers in 2005? Didn’t the now UKIP councillors vote against more funds going into supporting abuse victims?
Labour has a long record of letting down it’s largely working class support, but why would, particularly around here, would traditional Labour voters swap for the only party that is “keeping the flames of Thatcherism alive”? UKIP representitives on Question Time on the issue of the rich avoiding/ evading paying tax, said the rich should pay less in tax, and alsol complained of raising the minimum wage and a free NHS “sucking in immigrants”. (The logic being if we want to keep migrants out wages should be lower here and no free NHS )
Some traditional Labour voters have gone over to UKIP, but look at the collapse of the Tory, Lib Dem vote (locally) and the demise of the BNP
Like with Hillsborough and Orgreave we do need a full proper inquiry into who knew what, who did and didn’t do what, over the abuse, but child sex abuse scandals and allegations are floating around all major political parties and the establishment, including royalty eg around Jimmy Saville, Elm house, Kincorra boys home, Cyril Smith, Grenville Janner, Peter Entwhistlle (Bury UKIP) care home abuse in Nottingham etc, Those connected to Fred and Rose West etc etc
Non of the above involved/ accused Pakistani Muslims as far as I am aware.
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Your logic is flawed. Does this make all Muslims innocent then?
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“Why would traditional Labour voters swap for the only party that is “keeping the flames of Thatcherism alive”? Because it’s the only party willing to do something about immigration and the only way we can do that is to take back full, control of our borders..
If you think the demise of the BNP means that the issues that brought it and the EDL into being have disappeared, you’re seriously deluded.. Mass immigration which has been imposed on the British people is now a very important issue for a large sector of the electorate.And whether you like it or not since the Coalition and the Tories alone, reduced tax for the rich, more, not less tax has been collected.
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“more not less tax has been collected”. That depends on who you view the stats. As a percentage of GDP tax receipts have fallen.
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That of course also depends on what your time frame is.
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For those interested in electoral statistics this might be useful. There are other sites.
http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html
If you want to defeat a sitting Councillor in a safe seat remember it is politics of the long run. You will need to leaflet every month, canvas and find with accuracy that 15% who will vote for anyone to get rid of the incumbent.
Where you identify tribal support never deliver there or make any waves, let then sleep.
Then on election day keep banging on supporters their doors till they vote.
With 6000 front doors as little as 3-5 dedicated people can win in within a few years.
This is how a pointless party like the DimDems do it. They are getting people not to vote for them but to vote against the other parties.
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Hi PM
Regarding electoralcalculus.co.uk – it is a near moribund site IMHO.
I visit:
http://politicalbetting.com/
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/
and just love the spreadsheet of https://twitter.com/britainelects
It’s here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X85PgCqavImGZPGdbrEfQc6uzNP98KXwZcf-8JsKZto/edit#gid=548761846
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Ta. Am out of date as usual!
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You: poet
Me: numbers geek
🙂
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I do numbers sometimes, when they fit the meter
…or maybe rhyme.
(Use them in my economics)
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For example:
(He quotes “excellent BIS” data.)
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Just as predicted ….. Labour walked it again …. please please please someone tell me how bad can labour be before people turn against them …. when I say people I mean the percentage of the 33% that could be bothered to vote that voted labour…… 67% of people eligible to vote decided not to vote … life in Rotherham must be good for this 67%.. or they just don’t give a damn.
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I am on the same page as you on this one 1st time user….
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33% was almost certainly better than the national average. (In 2013 the English Local Election average turnout was 30.9%* )
* http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0013/162103/2013-England-elections-report.pdf.pdf
See also: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35999707
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Am I censored Rik ?
No but you got that one wrong, the three are all Ex-Councillors.
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I got the info ( you say is wrong) from Rothpol archive Rik ‘ THOSE WHO KNEW….
Annonymous 1 Sept 2014 names Alan Atkin as one who downloaded porn and Gerald Smith who maintained a cabinet position.
If Atkin was named why didn’t he refute it it if it was incorrect..?
Annonymous asked the question. #1, “what discipline did Gerald Smith receive and
#2 was the matter referred to the police and
#3 Why did he manage to keep his position in cabinet….Nobody responded to that request posted by Annonymous 2 Sept 2014….
Perhaps therein is simple the answer to why RMBC councilors turned a blind eye to CSE because of the rot within their their own undisciplined, character deficient ranks….They wouldn’t deal with it internally … Had they tried it would have stirred up s..t within their own house… Prof Jay was quite correct in her assessment ….Individually and collectively they were unfit for purpose……
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That ‘fact’ re Alan Atkin, was corrected in a later posting as I recall it.
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Rik, I keep jumping threads and don’t know how to correct it. Can’t get the knack of answering somebody’s comment if no reply button… Maybe somebody can tell me how to do it….
REG R might help……
Like to answer 1st time user’s latest comment so please try to slip me in under her/his last post…
I take your point about me being bossy 1st time user… It’s a character flaw that I get plenty of flack for. Dave’s sarcasm ‘got up my nose’ a bit….. In my view pornography is not a victimless hobby and has doubtless played some part in the tragedy that is Rotherham’s disgrace…
I wonder if the people of Rotherham know that the torture of it’s children and the neglect of authorities and cover-ups are world news to this day…..
I was born in Tinsley into a family with two opinionated brothers and learned quick fire responses at an early age…
Anyways ( I think you are a female) thanks for the encouragement and the correction I take your point with some humility I hope…
I have made the point to those children involved in this crime against humanity that they have an option to work hard and be determined to use the opportunity to gird up their loins and leave for a better life at the first opportunity…I hope they get the message somehow….It may take generations for Rotherham to change for the better. No changes on the horizon that I can see for this generation of abused children….New Zealand is definitely a good option… A beautiful country the size of Britain with 4 million people….. It’s not heaven but it’s a good option for a new life and they surely deserve it don’t they……
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Think I have made changes that will make life a little easier for you.
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Thank you… I am not at all computer savvy… I need all the help I can get
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A Postcript to my last comment regarding anyone affected by CSE and wishing to start a new life in NZ. While I have no authority regarding who is allowed to reside in this country I would be happy to help regarding information that could assist where to source information and agencies who would be able to help recovery on arrival this country……
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Your not exactly advertising this ‘fresh start’ in NZ very well…. your always on here, after a few brandy’s rabbiting on about CSE….. it must be the case that either 1) life is rubbish there 2) you’ve run out of friends/family
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You arent advertising a new start over there very well though are you…. your’e always on here after a few sherries – I can only assume that its either a) very boring or b) you haven’t any family or friends……………
I dont think I’d be constantly on here making ill informed comments if I lived somewhere like NZ….
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Dave…. A…Don’t know what ‘sherries’ are that I ‘m supposed to be after…..B.. I have 5 children and 17 grandchildren a few long term faithful friends and what I consider to be a rich social life… C. What ill informed comments are you talking about ?….. If you get specific I can answer them…..
I commented on your sleezy sarcastic remark re councilors and porn and got this toxic reply for my sins… Says more about you than me Dave… Hit a raw nerve there eh …Your earlier comment gives you away regarding what you like to do in your spare time perhaps!,
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PS Dave…. My suggestion was directed at victims of the CSE who may want another start somewhere they will not be looking over their shoulder for years to come… Have no fear, it was not an invitation to people like yourself… NZ would bore the ass of you.
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In answer to anonymous about the Thatcherism remark this was addressed to me by a local MP on making an inquiry about the Jay report and maybe he should look closer to home as we have local LABOUR councils selling out to the tories, another layer of local government with a mayor and over 60 staff working for him and just remember ROTHERHAM WILL BE A REGION OF SHEFFIELD
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What really sticks in my throat is that. Over 9000 people voted for councillors who were at the seminar referred to in the Jay report and was part of the cover up and more than well publicised so they know who they are
How do these people sleep at night and how must the victims feel being betrayed by a large portion of the voting public
Totally unbelievable shame on you they know who they are and which wards they live in
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For Linda Wheeler, – since she asked for help
Comment structures – both on blogs and in on-line Newspapers often don’t exhibit the hierarchical structure that we have here (in other words they don’t have a “reply” button).
Those that do have hierarchical comments almost always limit the depth of the hierarchy. This is because in most systems every level of the hierarchy has less column width – and without limits you could easily end up with a lowest level allowing just one letter (of the alphabet) per row of text.
(there are other ways of handling it – but none are totally satisfactory when there are a lot of comments, and particularly when, as here most contributers are relatively unsophisticated web-wise.).
Of more relevance:
Rothpol uses a Blog structure, for something that would conventionally be set up via a Forum structure.
For example this:
https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/
or this:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=647
or this:
http://travelsy.proboards.com/
this is not intended to be a criticism of rothpol.
But forums do make it easier to keep of with an issue than a blog structure does.
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Thanks for that, I understand more now. I use the structure that I do, as a compromise between the needs of readers and commenters. I just increased the number of levels of comments, see how it works from experience, Rik.
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Hi,
It was not intended in any way as a criticism. I applaud what you did when you started it all up.Looking back to the earliest entries – it was a pretty lonely patch of land that you were standing on.
But a forum does allow a greater continuity of discussion of an issue.
It is worth seeing how Ben Goldacre handles it – ‘cos of past legal issues, and that he has deservedly made a lot of money out of his books
http://www.badscience.net/ – his blog
– has no visible link to:
http://badscience.net/forum/ – an active forum that he set up of which I’m a long time member.
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I didn’t take your comment as criticism, I just wanted to explain why things are the way they are, at least for now.
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Gee Reg…. Thanks for that but oh dear it will take me days to work it out but I will try….I am not being sarcastic when I really do bow to your knowledge on this stuff…You may find me making the same old mistakes in the future but I will keep trying and hopefully get it right…Thanks again.
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All this clap trap! Truth is that 67% are getting on with their lives and / or have long since given up on local politics with its amateurish shenanigans. Many simply can’t read and certainly are not aware of what Rotherham’s Muslims are up to.
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