After the murder of Jo Cox, MP tells ITV News death threats are all too common

When is a dose of healthy cynicism not so healthy after all?

Have we crossed a line between demanding democracy, and simply demonising those who represent us?

It is difficult to draw any rational conclusions from the murder of Jo Cox by a man whose motives virtually nobody understands. But what we do know is that MPs had been warning for years that something like this could happen.

Sarah Champion has had dozens of death threats in the four years she’s been the MP for Rotherham. I followed her for a week as she showed me just how vulnerable her job can be.

“We have been saying for a long time that an attack of this nature is inevitable and then it happens,” she told me.

“Why didn’t people listen to us? When you see all the stuff that is on Twitter and Facebook, it was inevitable that it was going to go from the virtual into the reality.

“It’s made me feel incredibly vulnerable.”

Read on… http://www.itv.com/news/2016-11-24/after-the-murder-of-jo-cox-mp-tells-itv-news-death-threats-are-all-too-common/

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17 Responses to After the murder of Jo Cox, MP tells ITV News death threats are all too common

  1. malcontent says:

    “It is difficult to draw any rational conclusions from the murder of Jo Cox by a man whose motives virtually nobody understands.”
    Whilst I absolutely condemn the murder of Jo Cox, the fact that her killer shouted “Britain First” several times whilst shooting and stabbing her should be a clue,

    • reg reader says:

      Hi, Mal
      I really don’t think this thread is intended to be about the motives of Joe Cox’s killer!
      There are already far too many contentious and conflicting views on that in the MSM.

      If you read the full article it is about the difficulty many MPs are having getting funding for agreed security measures from the IPSA for themselves and their staff.
      “”It’s taken me nearly nine months and I still haven’t got the security that counter-terrorism is saying that I need in my home. I’ve got some, but it took us six months to get that.”

    • reg reader says:

      Mal, I have a vague recollection that you once wrote here on Rothpol that you were in Cuba at the time that Castro took over. Is my recollection correct ?
      It would have been an interesting time, but it couldn’t have been much fun.

      • rothpol says:

        Didn’t think this post was anything to do with Cuba either?

      • malcontent says:

        RR: This is off topic, but no that was not me. I’ve never been to Cuba, though I have been to Miami where there are many Cuban exiles. Even if a country has a good health system all totalitarian regimes are evil.
        As for the issue of security for MPs, all though he was only the SY Police and Crime Commissioner Shaun Wright didn’t seem to have any trouble getting security around his home.

        • reg reader says:

          Thanks for your reply to my off-topic comment.

          … and yes I can also remember only too well how easily Shorn Wright got his security systems.

  2. Colin Tawn says:

    We are fortunate to live in a fairly open society, a society that encourages and protects ‘free speech’.
    We all know the difference between free speech and incitement but this also presents a dilemma IMV for us, MP’s and whichever state agency is delegated to protect people in the public eye.
    I understand there is a thing known as the ‘dark web’ (whatever that may be) where several groups of fantasists and wannabe’s plot mayhem and destruction. Do we encourage our government-of any political hue-to shut down and/or limit access to the ‘web and social networks (as in N.Korea and China) or do we agree to recruit and train possibly 1000’s of extra men and women, irrespective of costs to protect those who are deemed to be in need of protection? Or do we authorise GCHQ to recruit more people and monitor all of our communications?
    I don’t think it is simply a matter of manpower. Until Jo Cox was murdered very few people knew Thomas Mair was a Nazi fanatic and it was only afterwards when his computer and book collection was examined did the penny drop about his sick and warped mind.

    This will be a difficult decision for the Home Secretary, IPSA and the Security Services.

    • reg reader says:

      “I understand there is a thing known as the ‘dark web’ (whatever that may be) where several groups of fantasists and wannabe’s plot mayhem and destruction.”‘

      Colin, you misunderstand.
      )The Dark Web is made up largely of sites accessible only by using a dedicated web browser – Tor being the most well-known.)

      Earlier this year some serious research was done into activity there and reported at:
      http://www.iiss.org/en/publications/survival/sections/2016-5e13/survival–global-politics-and-strategy-february-march-2016-44d5/58-1-02-moore-and-rid-9204

      The authors note|:
      ” The results suggest that the most common uses for websites on Tor hidden services are criminal, including drugs, illicit finance and pornography involving violence, children and animals. One noteworthy finding was our confirmation of the near-absence of Islamic extremism on Tor hidden services, with fewer than a handful of active sites. Jihadis tend to use the internet for at least two general purposes: public-facing activities (propaganda, recruitment and sharing advice) and non-public-facing activities (internal communication, and command and control).”

      … and most significantly :

      “The darknet’s propaganda reach is starkly limited, not least because novices may be deterred by taking an ‘illicit’ step early on, as opposed to simple, curious Googling. Hidden services, secondly, are often not stable or accessible enough for efficient communication; other platforms seem to meet communication needs more elegantly. Islamic militants do commonly use the Tor browser on the open internet, however, for added anonymity.”

      The same could be said for the grooming of UK’s home-grown nutters.
      ________________________________________

      As you imply in your later comment , the web-home of UK extremism (both from the left and right) are the social media sites of Facebook and Twitter and to a slightly lesser degree YouTube.

      Just as when today Trump tweets
      “In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally”
      A whole load of people are gonna be true-believers, even when there is no evidence whatsoever to back up his statement.
      _____________________________

      Finally, were you not aware that UK had just enacted a somewhat extreme “snooping” law,
      “Petition to repeal new surveillance powers reaches 100,000 signatures”
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/11/28/petition-repeal-uks-new-surveillance-powers-reaches-100000-signatures/

      R R

  3. hotspot says:

    A new Pandora’s box, maybe Mair wasn’t the only one with a mental health issue

    50,000 tweets sent celebrating the murder of Jo Cox in month after her death.

    https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/uk/50000-tweets-sent-celebrating-murder-jo-cox/

  4. Colin Tawn says:

    @hotspot.
    Reasons and justification for monitoring social media sites more effectively?

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