Paul Nuttall elected as UKIP leader

Paul Nuttall has been elected leader of the UK Independence Party, replacing Nigel Farage.

The 39-year-old Member of the European Parliament, who served as UKIP’s deputy leader for six years, won 62.6% of support among party members.

Mr Nuttall defeated former deputy chairwoman Suzanne Evans and ex-soldier John Rees-Evans.

Read on… http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38125432

BREAKING NEWS: Paul Nuttall warns Ukip rebels ‘only unity breeds success’ after he is elected to replace Nigel Farage after months of party civil war

  • Diane James was elected in September but last just 18 days in the post 
  • Paul Nuttall is the favourite after he ran on a unity platform after infighting
  • Suzanne Evans is in with a shot while John Rees-Evans is a rank outsider
  • Contest was marred by further division and an actual fight in Strasbourg 

Paul Nuttall has been elected as Ukip’s second leader in 10 weeks, beating Suzanne Evans by a landslide into second place.

Ukip will hope the new election will draw a line under months of bitter infighting sparked by feuding over Nigel Farage’s legacy and approach to politics.

After his landslide victory with 62.2 per cent of the vote was confirmed, Mr Nuttall said: ‘Only unity breeds success.’

He added: ‘To those who do not want to unify and want to continue fighting the battles of the past, I’m afraid your time in Ukip is coming to an end.’

Mr Nuttall said it was ‘day zero’ for the party as he ordered ‘all factions to come together’.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3977892/How-long-time-Ukip-announce-SECOND-replacement-Nigel-Farage-Brexit-vote.html#ixzz4RIwPwO2E

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33 Responses to Paul Nuttall elected as UKIP leader

  1. Hotspot says:

    “Only unity breeds success”, and looking at the outcome of the USA presidential election.

    I give up.

  2. poetmorgan says:

    Monopoly is efficient????

  3. Beria 53 says:

    Nuttal is quoted as saying his aim is to replace Labour as the party for the working class voter. He is allegedly in favour of winding up the NHS in favour of an all private medical service.
    Well if Labour do fade the choice will be, the Tories, the Stupid and Nasty Party, or UKIP the Stupid and Nazi party.

    What a choice!

  4. Colin Tawn says:

    ‘UKIP ….. and Nazi party’
    Evidence?
    You are quite entitled to have a pop at any political party but you are not entitled to your own facts.

    I think Corbyn is a Marxist but without strong evidence I won’t accuse him of following a failed doctrine.

  5. reg reader says:

    Today’s news:

    “Hills make it odds-on that UKIP won’t have a single MP after the next election”
    http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/11/28/hills-make-it-odds-on-that-ukip-wont-have-a-single-mp-after-the-next-election/

  6. Colin Tawn says:

    Quelle surprise!

  7. poetmorgan says:

    Has no one spotted? Forecasts are generally wrong?

    • reg reader says:

      “Forecasts are generally wrong” – is a nonsense statement,

      … but it is obvious and understandable that some forecasts ultimately prove to have been more accurate than others.

      ( You are after all the one who keeps on going on about the Black Swan. The highly improbable does sometimes, but not often, happen. )

      Betting odds are hardly forecasts – they are more a crowd-sourced measure of current thinking.
      If your current thinking is that UKIP will have one of more MPs after the next election – bet on it, and if later you change your mind – you can always recover your position.

      http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/en-gb/betting/e/7579441/UK+General+Election+Betting.html

  8. poetmorgan says:

    I bet on Trump, whom I don’t support and won.
    Forecasts use antiquated methodology, no complexity, no beyesian statistics just the same old bell curves and least squares.
    I am in no position as yet to place bets on elections, however, if an opportunity arises then perhaps I will.
    Polls and you supported remain. You were wrong. We can all get things wrong. I get things wrong. Forecasts predicted a Clinton win. They were wrong and I got good odds 9 months before the vote. I was partly lucky and partly read the signs better than polls. With relatives in the Carolinas and regular contact there I got a feel for things.
    I forecast you will have difficulty resisting any opportunity to seek to slap others down.

    • reg reader says:

      “I forecast you will have difficulty resisting any opportunity to seek to slap others down.”

      Ever since you first came on here advertising your poetry site. illustrated by stolen copyright images – which I objected to – as I would to theft of my own images, you have been claiming victimhood.

      “Forecasts use antiquated methodology, no complexity, no beyesian statistics just the same old bell curves and least squares.”

      You have spent far too long on conspiracy sites.
      I doubt that you even understand the meaning of any the technical words you are quoting,

      Bye!

      • poetmorgan says:

        I acknowledge your communication, the contents of which are noted.

        Oh, I am an economist.

      • Top Cat says:

        Rik

        This arrogant being continues to type out and REPEAT prose from either links he provides or from the submissions of others. Readers are neither illiterate or need his misguided help.
        Please monitor his submissions closely.

        This blog does not exist for his exclusive use or to continue to intimidate and insult. Unless everyone else appears to be in love with Thumper Chump or the shambles called the Liebour Party, he takes his bat home.

        This has been brought to your attention before and he fails to recognise just how boring he is and some of us are losing the will to live.

  9. poetmorgan says:

    Victimhood????
    Weird interpretation there…

  10. poetmorgan says:

    Woody,
    Yes, he is a tedious creature. Perhaps he’s a leg end in his own mind.
    I just questioned forecasts a d got libeled as a thief. Weird or what?

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  12. Janet Green says:

    I wonder if Caven Vines might enlighten us as to whom Mr Farage was thinking about locally?

    Farage lays into ‘low-grade’ UKIP members
    The retired party boss hit out at members who he “would never have a drink with, who I would never employ and who use me as a vehicle for their own self-promotion.”

    Celebrating his retirement as boss of the troubled and split Brexit backers, he claimed he was having “a great time” as he is “not having to deal with low-grade people every day.” He added: “I am not responsible for what our branch secretary in Lower Slaughter said half-cut on Twitter last night – that isn’t my fault any more.”
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2367530/nigel-farage-launches-blistering-attack-on-ukip-members-branding-them-low-grade-people/

    • reg reader says:

      Janet
      The Guardian has the same story, but in far more detail – and the honesty to say that it originated in the Daily Telegraph.
      “Nigel Farage launches scathing attack on Ukip’s ‘low-grade people’ ”
      https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/09/nigel-farage-scathing-attack-ukip-low-grade-people

      I spent a few seconds on the Telegraph site looking for the original, but …
      I did come across a piece on him from yesterday that they are currently highlighting.
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/09/nigel-farage-exclusive-interview-special-relationship-donald/
      It is behind the DT’s paywall, but this is how it starts:
      “I want my life back.” That was Nigel Farage in July. A few days earlier, he had seen his life’s work in politics come to fruition when Britain voted to leave the European Union. So he resigned as leader of the UK Independence Party and insisted he was leaving politics behind.
      That was in keeping with the carefully crafted idea of Farage as the antithesis of the career politician: he was just an ordinary bloke who wanted his country back, not a cosy job at Westminster. Which all raises the question, what is he doing here?
      “Here” is Boisdale Belgravia, one of London’s more expensive restaurants and a regular Farage haunt. He’s out on the smoking terrace, fag in hand and a bottle of claret on the way. It’s 4pm on a Thursday.
      Other customers include one of the richest members of the House of Lords and sundry other tycoons, several of whom pop by our table to shake hands, invite him to things, and, in one case, bum a fag.
      He is utterly comfort­able, laughing easily and often: this is home ground. He is among friends. He has an entourage, too: a couple of media handlers, an assistant and a security man.
      As the wine is uncorked, he tells his PA to book flights to Washington a few days later “for meetings”, then a connection to New York for television interviews. This is a fairly typical week: when I ask him where he actually lives, he replies, “I’m nomadic these days.” ”
      _______________
      The Guardian piece includes: “Nigel Farage has said he is relieved to no longer be Ukip leader because it had meant “having to deal with low-grade people every day”, in an interview where he said his £85,000-a-year salary had left him “poor” compared with his City banker friends.”
      But little Nigel was never up to being a City banker – at least according to the Financial Times:
      “Nigel Farage’s pinstriped image belies modest City career
      and…
      “This suggestion that he was a very wealthy man in the City is probably a bit of a misnomer,” one metals broker says. “I don’t think he was anywhere near as successful as some people are portraying. He probably does better out of being an MEP.”
      https://www.ft.com/content/02cad03a-844f-11e4-bae9-00144feabdc0

      For me though the most relevant statement in that Financial Times article is where it says:
      “He was a natural-born salesman,” recalls Alex Heath, a fellow broker. “Setting up on your own requires backing and it requires people who believe in you and Nigel is very good at getting people to believe in him.”
      ___________________________________________

      Here in Rotherham, UKIP is becoming an organised and articulate opposition to the ruling Labour party – and that is something to be really welcomed.

      But I can’t help feeling that they are all amongst those that Farage is sneering at when he says:
      ” I don’t have to spend my life dealing with people I would never have a drink with, who I would never employ and who use me as a vehicle for their own self-promotion. There are a lot of great people in Ukip. The problem is that Ukip has become a bit like the other parties: people view it as a means to get elected.”

      Or maybe it’s just all the Common People he dislikes, now that he is a friend of Trump:

      • poetmorgan says:

        Sadly, few politicians stand too close a scrutiny. As a young man fresh out of the R N and living in Bristol I got to work for Tony Benn on the first referendum. This gave me a false view of politicians. While not perfect, Tony was essentially a good man. My experience of politicians since then has been a long down hill decline. It seems straight forward beliefs and candour are well out of their time.
        A cabal of billionaires has taken over in the USA and we are facinganother banking crisis that may well be world wide. Oh, don’ you just love life!

        • reg reader says:

          You were privileged to have worked with Tony Benn!
          I only ever met him on two occasions, but a decent and honest man.

          “… and we are facing another banking crisis that may well be world-wide.”
          I don’t make predictions, but I honestly believe that this one is containable if there is the will and some relatively early action, We certainly don’t want it still lingering around when Trump takes over the US Presidency, (and I’m pretty damn sure that the Fed feel the same. Trump and his comments on China and it’s alleged currency manipulation are wide of the mark as the Fed obviously knows.
          https://www.ft.com/content/5a89693a-91db-11e6-8df8-d3778b55a923

          (Back in the early 1990’s the US was publicly assumed to be consciously manipulating the market in the US Dollar v the Deutschmark – hence to limit imports from Germany, and even after it had agreed to stop. ) I can’t comment on the veracity of this.

        • poetmorgan says:

          Yes, went to school in St George. Tony was a natural, especially at small gatherings. Some of his history was off the mark. One of the few politicians who was genuinely loved by lots of his constituents. Boundary Commission messed with Bristol East and we lost him.
          I cannot say I was ever of the left. My interests then were in making a living and raising a family. I helped out at elections. On moving north I was rapidly disillusioned with party politics.
          I agree, predictions are unwise. However, I follow history and we have had crisis after crisis for centuries so expect another but cannot say when. With current levels of debt, public, private and corporate, I expect it to be tough for many people.
          Deutsche Bank is looking bad especially with their latest fined!

        • reg reader says:

          Neither Deutsche nor Commertz come out well from the recent stress tests,
          https://www.eba.europa.eu/documents/10180/1532819/2016-EU-wide-stress-test-Results.pdf , but I am not convinced that either are going to fail.

          Italy’s Banca Monte dei Pashci di Siena is the real problem bank. But it is possibly containable.
          Maybe Italy will end up leaving the Eurozone – but like Greece and Spain it should never have been in in the first place.

          … it’s not what you know about, it’s what you don’t know about that causes the real problems.
          Neither Brexit, nor Trump were ever predicted.
          If even the possibility of Brexit had been considered by the Cameron gvt the rules of the referendum would almost certainly have been different; whilst Trump is the result of a deeply flawed US Presidential electoral system

        • poetmorgan says:

          I was in Siena recently looking at medieval bank buildings and that very bank! It does have big ties to a German bank and could set dominos falling?
          Stieglitz wrote a good book about the Euro and made the same general point. I never expected a brexit win but only see it as a different set of unknowns. I cannot see the euro surviving in its present form, like Stieglitz I see it damaged the periphery while enriching the core and that is politically destabilising.

        • reg reader says:

          “Stieglitz wrote a good book about the Euro and made the same general point. ” give me an Amazon link and I’ll read.

          This is what I saw:
          Back prior to the 1 Jan 1999 introduction of the Euro, the European Monetary Institute (the precursor of the ECB) had published a legal opinion that the Euro could be introduced with even no countries joining the Eurozone. (the SDR functions on that basis as once did the ECU).
          My own assumption and that of everyone I shared opinions with, was that no more than 4 or 5 North European countries would enter the Eurozone initially .
          But EuroStat and the European Commission decided differently. The ECB had no part in that decision .

        • poetmorgan says:

          It is called “The Euro” I got it on kindle at the amazon kindle store. I use a kindle for internet so I cannot cut and paste a link.
          This book is a Keynesian view (not my school of thought) but I did enjoy it and was surprised at how much I concurred with.

        • poetmorgan says:

          See my reply put I. Wrong box
          Stieglitz suggests splitting the zone into two or three separate currencies.
          Yes it could be up your street!

  13. J S says:

    As a professional in psychology I have watched closely certain postings on this site and I am somewhat disturbed by the what can only be discribed as a unhealthy obsession by the person going under the name of Janet Green with a Caven Vines over the past two years this person targets Caven Vines but no other member of the local UKIP party is it this person as a Personel vendetta against Mr Vines for some reason all the signs indicate that this the reason for the way Janet Green singles out Mr Vines
    Has any other follower noticed the same obsession

    • rothpol says:

      You are correct in your observation, an obsession bordering on the pathological! They certainly seem to bear him a grudge that time does not appear to be lessening?
      Time for Janet Green to put up or shut up?

    • Janet Green says:

      It is very clear that you are not a qualified or professionally recognised psychologist.
      It is infinitely more likely that I am the Marchioness of Bute.

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